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Re: Fastest web framework

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Date 2012-10-16 07:08 -0700
Subject Re: Fastest web framework
From Demian Brecht <demianbrecht@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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Let me say right off the bat that I've taken a brief look through the
code and documentation and found that I wouldn't mind trying it out
for personal projects. So, the intention here is not to slag the
framework.

> Performance and effectivity are related metrics. Longer feature list can not explain why it less effective. An answer to effectivity question might be related to:
> - code quality (we have PEP8)

Any static code analysis such as pylint or pyflakes?

> - architectural decisions taken

What (sample of) decisions? How do they differ from other frameworks?
How will they make my life better?

> - core team experience

Not sure this is entirely relevant (imho). Engineers with great
experience on paper may still make poor decisions and output shoddy
work. Conversely, a new grad (or weekend hacker) may have a solid
understanding and output amazing work.

> - historical path, etc.

What does this mean?

> There is a problem with 3rd party code... it should evolve with framework... so good one become a part of it. 3rd party UI things are good, until you start `customize` them, patch, workaround, etc. This is where pain come from. However, there are exceptions. Can you name few?

[Disclaimer: personal opinion] I couldn't disagree more. A good
framework provides the glue for various subsystems to work amazingly
well together. Perhaps this is why I'm drawn to micro-frameworks and
the likes of Pyramid. No assumptions are made about *how* I'm going to
use the framework. Modularity is good. Do one thing and do it *very*
well. Caching? Use beaker. ORM? Use SQLAlchemy.

> Let me state this: "wheezy.web let you design web application to be able run it at the speed of `hello world`, even database driven one".

This bothers me. It's misleading to newbies and it's just wrong. You
simply *cannot* have a database driven application run at the exact
same performance as a "hello world" app.

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RE: Fastest web framework Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-10-15 16:39 +0300
  Re: Fastest web framework alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-10-15 18:26 -0700
    RE: Fastest web framework Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-10-16 14:49 +0300
    Re: Fastest web framework Demian Brecht <demianbrecht@gmail.com> - 2012-10-16 07:08 -0700
    RE: Fastest web framework Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-10-16 17:47 +0300
    Re: Fastest web framework Demian Brecht <demianbrecht@gmail.com> - 2012-10-16 09:07 -0700
    RE: Fastest web framework Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-10-16 19:35 +0300
    RE: Fastest web framework Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-10-26 13:53 +0300

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