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Re: Camelot a good tool for me

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On 22/05/2015 14:11, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> Op Friday 22 May 2015 14:38 CEST schreef Dan Sommers:
> 
>> On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:59:02 +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>
>>> Would Camelot be a good tool to get me started, or can I better
>>> bite the bullet and just start with Tkinter and SQLAlchemy?
>>
>> Bite the bullet and learn SQL.
> 
> I know SQL. Until now I almost always did everything with SQL. The
> problem is that you are expected not to use it. With Python you are
> supposed to work with SQLAlchemy and with Java Hibernate.

Not at all. You're supposed to work with whatever is most effective for
yourself and any collaborators you may for the project you're working
on. (And by "effective" I include "giving the most satisfaction").

I use raw SQL most of the time (with a very lightweight wrapper), and
very occasionally I use SQLAlchemy where I find myself re-implementing
it poorly (to coin a phrase). But that's me. And I've been a
professional database developer for 25 years, most of it having nothing
to do with Python.

SQLAlchemy's great; it's worth taking the time to learn how to use it.
But certainly don't feel you *have* to.


TJG

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Camelot a good tool for me Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-22 09:59 +0200
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2015-05-22 12:38 +0000
    Re: Camelot a good tool for me Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-05-22 23:02 +1000
    Re: Camelot a good tool for me Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-22 15:11 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2015-05-22 14:29 +0100
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 15:57 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2015-05-22 19:24 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-23 03:37 +1000
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 19:56 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2015-05-22 21:12 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-23 18:59 +1000
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2015-05-24 15:15 +0200
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 15:03 +0200
    Re: Camelot a good tool for me OT beauty of Tk Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-05-22 21:52 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me OT beauty of Tk Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 22:13 +0200
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-22 15:24 +0100
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me felix <felix@epepm.cupet.cu> - 2015-05-22 10:50 -0400
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2015-05-24 07:05 -0500

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