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Re: static variables

From Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: static variables
Date 2015-12-02 14:30 -0600
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Antoon Pardon
<antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote:
> Op 02-12-15 om 15:15 schreef Ian Kelly:
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote:
>>> Op 02-12-15 om 14:11 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:09 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you want your arguments to be taken seriously, then you better should.
>>>>> If you use an argument when it suits you and ignore it when it doesn't
>>>>> you are showing you don't really have an argument. You are just showing
>>>>> your preference and making it sound like an argument.
>>>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
>>> So? That doesn't show that we are talking about a foolish consistency here.
>> It's actually the truest use of the quote that I've yet seen on this
>> list. Emerson was complaining about those who adhere to opinions that
>> they've expressed in the past solely for the sake of appearing
>> consistent in their values, which is basically what you're accusing
>> Steven of not doing.
>
> That is not true. I expect that the next time someone will try to
> argue for private attributes or some such, Steven will be among
> those that will support the "consenting adults" line. This view
> of his, is not in the past, it is for all i know still in the
> present. That his latest expression was in the past, doesn't make
> his view something of the past.
>
> If there was a reason to think he had changed his mind, you would
> have been right. But I see no reason for that.
>
> There is a difference between changing your mind and thus change
> your arguments and using an argument selectively.

A person can hold one opinion in some contexts and an opposing opinion
in others.

"Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what
to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing
you said to-day."

"There will be an agreement in whatever variety of actions, so they be
each honest and natural in their hour. For of one will, the actions
will be harmonious, however unlike they seem. These varieties are lost
sight of at a little distance, at a little height of thought. One
tendency unites them all. The voyage of the best ship is a zigzag line
of a hundred tacks. See the line from a sufficient distance, and it
straightens itself to the average tendency. Your genuine action will
explain itself, and will explain your other genuine actions. Your
conformity explains nothing. Act singly, and what you have already
done singly will justify you now."

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static variables Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> - 2015-11-30 17:15 +0000
  Re: static variables Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-11-30 12:38 -0500
  Re: static variables BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-30 20:32 +0000
    Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-01 12:01 +1100
      Re: static variables Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> - 2015-12-01 08:26 +0000
        Re: static variables Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-12-01 10:01 +0100
        Re: static variables Grobu <snailcoder@retrosite.invalid> - 2015-12-01 10:15 +0100
          Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-02 12:02 +1100
            Re: static variables Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2015-12-02 01:16 +0000
              Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-02 12:24 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 09:21 +0100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 09:34 +0100
                Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-02 21:22 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 12:09 +0100
                Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-03 00:11 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 14:41 +0100
                Re: static variables Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 13:48 +0000
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 15:07 +0100
                Re: static variables Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 08:15 -0600
                Re: static variables Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 14:31 +0000
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 16:30 +0100
                Re: static variables Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 14:30 -0600
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-03 10:06 +0100
                Re: static variables Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 20:23 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 10:47 +0100
                Re: static variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-12-02 12:18 +0200
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 11:56 +0100
                Re: static variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-12-02 13:30 +0200
                Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-03 00:17 +1100
        Re: static variables Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2015-12-01 10:58 +0100
          Re: static variables Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> - 2015-12-01 11:47 +0000

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