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Re: static variables

From Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: static variables
Date 2015-12-02 10:47 +0100
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Op 02-12-15 om 10:23 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Antoon Pardon
> <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote:
>> I think python is unsuited for an obvious solution for static locals.
>> Because you need to initialise your static variable somewhere. If you
>> initialise whithin the body of your function, you will have a statement
>> that is essentialy a declaration instead of an executable statement.
>> Which goes totally against the dynamic nature op python.
> It ought to be initialized at the same time the function is defined -
> just like argument defaults, only without them being visible as
> arguments.

I am not talking about the time. That could be done with something
declarative too. I am talking about where to put in the code.

>  If Python had a keyword that meant
> "currently-executing-function", that would work out well for
> attributes (and might also make recursion more optimizable);
> otherwise, default args are probably the cleanest way we have.

No it wouldn't. Lets call that keyword cef. The fact that you
can write:

def foo():
   cef.attr

instead of

def foo()
   foo.attr

changes nothing about foo.attr being globally accessible.

-- 
Antoon.

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  Re: static variables Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-11-30 12:38 -0500
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    Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-01 12:01 +1100
      Re: static variables Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> - 2015-12-01 08:26 +0000
        Re: static variables Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-12-01 10:01 +0100
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          Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-02 12:02 +1100
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              Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-02 12:24 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 09:21 +0100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 09:34 +0100
                Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-02 21:22 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 12:09 +0100
                Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-03 00:11 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 14:41 +0100
                Re: static variables Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 13:48 +0000
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 15:07 +0100
                Re: static variables Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 08:15 -0600
                Re: static variables Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 14:31 +0000
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 16:30 +0100
                Re: static variables Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 14:30 -0600
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-03 10:06 +0100
                Re: static variables Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 20:23 +1100
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 10:47 +0100
                Re: static variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-12-02 12:18 +0200
                Re: static variables Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-12-02 11:56 +0100
                Re: static variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-12-02 13:30 +0200
                Re: static variables Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-03 00:17 +1100
        Re: static variables Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2015-12-01 10:58 +0100
          Re: static variables Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> - 2015-12-01 11:47 +0000

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