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Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project

Date 2014-07-24 15:29 -0600
From Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project
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On 07/24/2014 12:51 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Zachary Ware
> <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On other platforms, it also is not 100%
>>> native.
>>
>> On Windows, at least, ttk comes very very close to it.
> 
> What exactly does that mean? The Windows default UI changed
> significantly from W2K -> XP -> Win8, and each time, it's possible to
> revert to the old styling; does ttk follow the rest of the OS in that?
> And if so, does it achieve that by restricting you to a vicious subset
> of functionality that can actually be implemented natively, or does it
> try to reimplement as appropriate?

ttk, like Qt, uses the MS theming dll to do the widget drawing (buttons,
check boxes, etc).  So everything looks native.

As for actually being native, well, that means less and less every
passing year.  Windows applications use a plethora of GUI toolkits these
days.  In the old days everyone used what Win32 provided.  Then MS
started doing their own widgets in MS Office because the native ones are
a subset of desired functionality modern apps demands.  That opened the
flood gates.

So now many programs draw and control their own widgets.  It has led to
a certain amount of inconsistency, perhaps worse than we have in Linux.
 And some apps don't even bother with trying to look native anymore,
like a lot of antivirus, antimalware, and system optimization programs
(such as Advanced System Care).

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Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Noble Bell <noblebell@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 08:57 -0700
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 01:20 +0900
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 11:22 -0500
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-24 16:37 +0000
      Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 13:17 -0500
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 02:18 +1000
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Noble Bell <noblebell@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 09:29 -0700
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 02:46 +1000
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 15:38 -0600
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 19:04 +0200
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 03:09 +1000
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-24 19:04 +0100
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 04:15 +1000
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 13:33 -0500
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-24 21:17 +0000
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 04:51 +1000
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-07-25 10:28 +1200
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 21:02 +0200
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-24 21:24 +0000
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 14:10 -0500
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> - 2014-07-24 12:11 -0700
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 13:32 -0600
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Noble Bell <noblebell@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 13:10 -0700
      Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2014-07-24 13:46 -0700
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 15:13 -0500
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 15:24 -0600
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 15:29 -0600
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 15:32 -0600
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project ismeal shanshi <stuffstorehouse2014@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 14:44 -0700
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-24 19:25 -0400
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-26 00:48 -0700
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-24 19:35 -0400
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Noble Bell <noblebell@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 06:37 -0700
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 20:04 +0000
  Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2014-07-27 10:53 -0700
    Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project pecore@pascolo.net - 2014-07-29 00:00 +0200
      Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-28 18:01 -0400
        Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project pecore@pascolo.net - 2014-07-29 21:47 +0200

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