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| From | Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.atheism |
| Subject | Re: We are personal beings. |
| Date | 2025-03-11 05:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <m3ag0dF63heU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (8 earlier) <EvtzP.68207$gmf6.28699@fx45.iad> <vqn372$1eaja$1@dont-email.me> <BRGzP.10797$cYP6.9853@fx08.iad> <ee3a4fbd-2670-9c5b-a507-0bc2bd6037a7@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> <JsOzP.245290$OrR5.74414@fx18.iad> |
Terry Miles wrote: > jojo wrote: > >> Terry Miles wrote: >>> Dawn Flood wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/9/2025 11:02 PM, Terry Miles wrote: >>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Terry Miles wrote: >>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/9/2025 9:55 AM, Terry Miles wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/25 1:34 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/03/2025 6:18 pm, Ted wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion and bible reading is not enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere near enough. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wanna suck black ass. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't necessarily subscribe to the practice, but I >>>>>>>>>>> will die in the defence and preservation of your >>>>>>>>>>> rights!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully, if it comes to that, I will receive a >>>>>>>>>>> Medal of Honour! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If such would happen, there would no longer be any >>>>>>>>>> "I"; you do understand that, don't you? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dawn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's none now. No "you" or "me" either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's an interesting hypothesis, assuming that I >>>>>>>> understand what you're getting at here, namely, the claim >>>>>>>> that our minds are "imaginary". It's kind of like the >>>>>>>> dilemma of those who advocate hard determinism and the >>>>>>>> absence of free will -- is the position that they >>>>>>>> advocate a "free" choice on their part?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dawn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, I think that's involved with it too. But it's not >>>>>>> that our minds are imaginary, it's that our selves are a >>>>>>> story we make up. Hume said something like that with his >>>>>>> "bundle" idea, and of course Buddha too said the self is >>>>>>> illusory. According to Dennett, the self is the center of >>>>>>> narrative gravity, i.e. it's quite handy to use, but not >>>>>>> actually real. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> we could also be a simulation, which is looking more and more >>>>>> likely. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> LOL. See Donald Hoffman "The Case Against Reality". You might >>>>> like it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I presume that I exist, and I presume that I have free will, all >>>> the while acknowledging that neither (or both) may, in fact, be >>>> true. >>>> >>>> Dawn >>> >>> >>> Well said. Seems to be the wisest option. >>> >> > >> well free will or determinism are both predicated on existence. i >> feel its less about free will and more about chaos. > > > Chaos, as in shit just happening? ... Yeah, I think you're probably > right. > > Your mouth is as vulgar as your last name. Have you ever seen a grown man digested by increments of six hours apart? I have the power to change my mind yet announcing such seems a large sight closer to explaining myself than achieving an agenda. -- 1.11 hrs the number of the beast You try to keep me in cages But baby you got to catch me first You think your love is contagious I do my best you cant do your worst
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Re: We are personal beings. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-09 15:29 -0700
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Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-09 16:36 -0500
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Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 01:55 -0400
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Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 09:21 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 16:41 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 13:12 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 19:25 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 18:44 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-12 08:49 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-12 11:14 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "Brother Max" <max@christs.church> - 2025-03-12 16:21 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-12 15:38 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 12:39 -0700
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-13 06:09 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-13 21:44 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-13 08:34 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 06:45 -0700
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-13 16:21 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-14 08:15 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-13 22:49 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-14 09:53 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-13 23:03 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-14 10:43 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-13 23:52 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-13 05:49 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 06:47 -0700
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-13 09:48 -0500
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Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-13 14:53 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-13 16:27 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-12 23:52 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-11 13:24 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 01:56 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-11 17:28 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 09:23 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 18:45 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 06:47 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 09:25 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 16:43 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 13:15 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 18:36 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 06:56 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-11 18:52 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-11 03:36 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 09:30 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-12 01:43 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 09:29 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 16:44 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2025-03-12 16:58 +1100
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-13 07:28 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 09:26 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 16:46 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-11 13:16 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. "TT Liams" <drliams@t.t> - 2025-03-11 19:23 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-12 08:45 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-12 08:44 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-12 11:15 -0400
Re: We are personal beings. Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> - 2025-03-12 15:35 -0500
Re: We are personal beings. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 13:38 -0700
Re: We are personal beings. "Terry Miles" <tmiles43@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-13 02:40 +0000
Re: We are personal beings. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2025-03-13 06:09 -0400
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