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| From | Xx/v]andrak|≡xX <xmfuller@t.query.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.atheism |
| Subject | Re: We are personal beings. |
| Date | 2025-03-13 05:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <m3fra7F933U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Terry Miles wrote: > % wrote: > >> Terry Miles wrote: >>> % wrote: >>> >>>> Terry Miles wrote: >>>>> Xx/v]andrak|≡xX wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Terry Miles wrote: >>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Terry Miles wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/2025 11:02 PM, Terry Miles wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Terry Miles wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/2025 9:55 AM, Terry Miles wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/25 1:34 AM, In the Name of Jesus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/03/2025 6:18 pm, Ted wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion and bible reading is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere near enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanna suck black ass. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't necessarily subscribe to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice, but I will die in the defence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and preservation of your rights!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully, if it comes to that, I will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receive a Medal of Honour! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If such would happen, there would no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer be any "I"; you do understand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, don't you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's none now. No "you" or "me" either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an interesting hypothesis, assuming >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I understand what you're getting at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, namely, the claim that our minds are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "imaginary". It's kind of like the dilemma >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of those who advocate hard determinism and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the absence of free will -- is the position >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they advocate a "free" choice on their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> part?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I think that's involved with it too. But >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's not that our minds are imaginary, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> that our selves are a story we make up. Hume >>>>>>>>>>>>> said something like that with his "bundle" >>>>>>>>>>>>> idea, and of course Buddha too said the self is >>>>>>>>>>>>> illusory. According to Dennett, the self is the >>>>>>>>>>>>> center of narrative gravity, i.e. it's quite >>>>>>>>>>>>> handy to use, but not actually real. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we could also be a simulation, which is looking >>>>>>>>>>>> more and more likely. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> LOL. See Donald Hoffman "The Case Against Reality". >>>>>>>>>>> You might like it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I presume that I exist, and I presume that I have free >>>>>>>>>> will, all the while acknowledging that neither (or >>>>>>>>>> both) may, in fact, be true. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dawn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well said. Seems to be the wisest option. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> well free will or determinism are both predicated on >>>>>>>> existence. i feel its less about free will and more about >>>>>>>> chaos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chaos, as in shit just happening? ... Yeah, I think you're >>>>>>> probably right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Your mouth is as vulgar as your last name. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> LOL. "Miles" is vulgar? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Have you ever seen a >>>>>> grown man digested by increments of six hours apart? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No, thank gawd. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have the >>>>>> power to change my mind yet announcing such seems a large >>>>>> sight closer to explaining myself than achieving an agenda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sure lol. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> can't you see him in his , >>>> oversized plastic fireman hat , >>>> riding up front on his big wheel >>> >>> >>> LOL. Who the hell is he? >>> > >> who knows some drifter that has lost his way > > > Seems unhinged. > > Lacking basic verbal skills and rabid. -- 1.11 hrs the number of the beast You try to keep me in cages But baby you got to catch me first You think your love is contagious I do my best you cant do your worst "Nonsense." --Joannis PapaOomMowMow
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Re: We are personal beings. "Terry Miles" <tmiles43@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-10 19:13 +0000
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