Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS

From	Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS
Date	2024-07-26 17:23 +0200
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Andrew, 2024-07-23 19:26:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:46:36 +0200 :
> 
>>> Philosophy can & should be different among intelligent knowledgeable
>>> people, where I *never* use MFA/2FA/2SV because of the privacy flaws.
>>
>> What security flaw is known for TOTP? Can you be more specific?
> 
> I said privacy. You said security. 
> The privacy flaw in MFA/2FA/2SV is obvious. It's that second thing.

What "privacy flaw" are you talking about?

[...]
>> Newer Android devices encrypt *all* data stored on them. The whole data
>> partition is encrypted. And the lock mechanism is part of the security
>> concept!
> 
> Here's where philosophy rules the design since that requires some kind of
> lock on the phone, does it not? Remember, I don't put a lock on the phone.
> 
> I think people who put locks on their phone don't know how to use a phone.
> Or, they live in slums. And they fear every person around them. It's sad.

I give up - you don't get it.



-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 22:35 +0200
  Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-06 21:40 +0000
    Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-06 23:47 +0100
      Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-06 23:34 +0000
        Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 13:02 +0200
          Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 13:43 +0000
            Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 09:23 -0700
              Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-07 20:51 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 11:55 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 18:58 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 12:02 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 20:38 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 15:41 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-12 21:48 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-12 15:39 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-14 15:25 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-15 13:03 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-15 08:35 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-20 16:38 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-20 16:26 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-20 11:29 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-21 13:53 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-21 13:49 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-23 09:46 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-23 17:26 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-26 17:23 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-26 08:34 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-26 18:11 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-27 03:21 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-27 14:53 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 11:46 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-27 19:12 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 12:51 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 18:46 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 18:51 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 20:33 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 22:24 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-28 19:34 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-07-28 22:01 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 07:07 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-07-29 08:48 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 11:47 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-29 13:12 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 21:26 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-29 21:48 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 21:52 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-29 22:15 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-06 19:59 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-08-06 12:11 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-10 10:09 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-10 10:49 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-08-12 12:27 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-13 17:18 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-13 21:14 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-14 00:29 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-14 07:46 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-14 07:54 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-17 13:18 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-19 07:33 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-19 10:05 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-19 16:04 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-19 22:06 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-20 01:03 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-20 09:29 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-20 16:54 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-21 17:47 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-17 13:14 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-08-12 12:27 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-08-10 14:03 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-13 17:15 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-28 08:42 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-29 11:40 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-29 12:47 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-06 19:57 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-06 19:53 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-08-10 14:07 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 11:46 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-20 22:29 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-21 00:02 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-20 17:39 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-21 13:55 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-21 13:54 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 20:44 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 13:50 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-09 13:07 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-09 13:16 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 09:16 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-09 18:38 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-09 17:46 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-09 18:51 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 10:52 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-10 09:10 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 11:41 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-10 21:05 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 13:07 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 10:51 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-10 09:06 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 11:44 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-09 22:07 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-10 19:46 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 13:09 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 15:52 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-12 21:46 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-12 15:37 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 18:02 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 02:58 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 02:08 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 12:42 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 09:05 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 22:10 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 19:55 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 13:49 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 09:04 -0700
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 20:48 +0200
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 11:48 -0700
            Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 20:09 +0200
              Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-07 19:12 +0100
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 18:51 +0000
                Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 11:56 -0700
  Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-07 21:04 +0200
    Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 20:31 +0000
      Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 14:17 -0700
    Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-07-07 22:43 +0200
      Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-08 16:33 +0200
        Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-07-08 17:35 +0200
          Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2024-07-10 12:26 -0600
        Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-07-08 16:49 +0200
          Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-08 17:25 +0200

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