Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol
Date	2023-12-09 20:45 +0100
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On 2023-12-09 19:12, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2023-12-09 11:18, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2023-12-09 14:16, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-09 01:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-12-09 06:46, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2023 at 12:21:04 AM EST, "Your Name" 
>>>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2023-12-09 01:57:47 +0000, Tyrone said:
>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2023 at 7:12:02 PM EST, "Alan Browne" 
>>>>>>> <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/app-gives-android-users-ability-092001890.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beeper Mini reverse engineers iMessage's protocol's to register non
>>>>>>>> Apple phones on the Apple iCloud data base.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reverse engineering a protocol is not illegal in the US and Canada.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm less sure that using such to "register" a non Apple device's 
>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>> number on the Apple servers would not violate Apple's terms of 
>>>>>>>> service.
>>>>>>>> To be seen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As expected, Apple has already killed this. Did anyone REALLY 
>>>>>>> think Apple
>>>>>>> would permit this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't you jealous Android dweebs just get an iPhone and get 
>>>>>>> over it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's only brainless morons who give a crap about what stupid colour a
>>>>>> bubble is in a messaging app anyway.  :-\
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Brainless morons = jealous Android users. They are literally 
>>>>> "green with
>>>>> envy".
>>>>
>>>> Us? Not at all. There is only 21% users of iphones here, they have 
>>>> nobody to talk with on iMessage, so they come to WhatsApp :-P
>>>
>>> Owned by Meta (Facebook) where the user is the product.
>>
>> Sure, but Meta doesn't sniff the conversations.
> 
> In proper E2E they wouldn't be able to.  But you have to trust that that 
> is what is happening.

The goal of Meta is profit, obviously. If they sniff messages, that 
would be noticed when trying to monetize it somehow.


>>>> Here they need to open up their walled garden, if they want to be 
>>>> able to talk with anyone. Not our problem, but theirs.
>>>
>>> No walled garden: Apple devices roam wherever they want.  A walled 
>>> garden means self contained and limiting.
>>>
>>> Fabulous eco-system, OTOH.
>>
>> You got the point wrong :-D
> 
> Not at all.  Apple's system is not a walled garden.  More like an 
> exclusive country club where you get more but can also go anywhere off 
> of the club you want.

The point is that *here* there are only 21% of iPhones, so those users 
have to get out or their walled garden to talk with the people, 80% of 
which are on Android. So, they don't use iMessages.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-09 17:18 +0100
  Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-09 13:12 -0500
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-09 15:26 -0400
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-09 20:45 +0100
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-09 16:05 -0400
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-09 22:21 +0100
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-09 17:04 -0500
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 00:24 -0400
              Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-10 13:20 +0100
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-10 10:38 +0100
              Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-10 08:26 -0500
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 00:22 -0400
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-10 10:38 +0100
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-10 13:22 +0100
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-10 10:37 +0100
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-10 13:24 +0100
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-09 16:25 -0500
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2023-12-09 23:29 -0500

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