Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol
Date	2023-12-09 17:18 +0100
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On 2023-12-09 14:16, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2023-12-09 01:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2023-12-09 06:46, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Dec 9, 2023 at 12:21:04 AM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-12-09 01:57:47 +0000, Tyrone said:
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2023 at 7:12:02 PM EST, "Alan Browne" 
>>>>> <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/app-gives-android-users-ability-092001890.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beeper Mini reverse engineers iMessage's protocol's to register non
>>>>>> Apple phones on the Apple iCloud data base.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reverse engineering a protocol is not illegal in the US and Canada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm less sure that using such to "register" a non Apple device's 
>>>>>> phone
>>>>>> number on the Apple servers would not violate Apple's terms of 
>>>>>> service.
>>>>>> To be seen.
>>>>>
>>>>> As expected, Apple has already killed this. Did anyone REALLY think 
>>>>> Apple
>>>>> would permit this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't you jealous Android dweebs just get an iPhone and get 
>>>>> over it?
>>>>
>>>> It's only brainless morons who give a crap about what stupid colour a
>>>> bubble is in a messaging app anyway.  :-\
>>>
>>> Yep. Brainless morons = jealous Android users. They are literally 
>>> "green with
>>> envy".
>>
>> Us? Not at all. There is only 21% users of iphones here, they have 
>> nobody to talk with on iMessage, so they come to WhatsApp :-P
> 
> Owned by Meta (Facebook) where the user is the product.

Sure, but Meta doesn't sniff the conversations.

> 
> I'd try to get people to switch to something independent such as Signal.

Not going to happen.

Years ago there was lots of noise about WhatsApp not being secure. 
People tried other apps. Me myself have Signal an Telegram also 
installed. I mananged to exchange a few messages on T, none on S. I know 
some people ditched W. In the end, everybody is using W, except some 
security concerned people in their islands.

> 
> But I get that people ended up on WhatsApp because of their Facebook 
> account.  Pity - hard to break such bonds.

Not at all. I don't have FB on the phone, many people don't have 
accounts there. You got it wrong.

W is used by preference because everybody uses it.

> 
>> Here they need to open up their walled garden, if they want to be able 
>> to talk with anyone. Not our problem, but theirs.
> 
> No walled garden: Apple devices roam wherever they want.  A walled 
> garden means self contained and limiting.
> 
> Fabulous eco-system, OTOH.

You got the point wrong :-D

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-09 17:18 +0100
  Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-09 13:12 -0500
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-09 15:26 -0400
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-09 20:45 +0100
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-09 16:05 -0400
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-09 22:21 +0100
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-09 17:04 -0500
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 00:24 -0400
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 00:22 -0400
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-09 16:25 -0500
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2023-12-09 23:29 -0500

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