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Re: -20°C

From Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com>
Newsgroups de.sci.ing.elektrotechnik, de.sci.electronics, de.soc.politik.misc
Subject Re: -20°C
Date 2023-05-01 18:11 +0200
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Am 01.05.23 um 17:39 schrieb Marte Schwarz:

>>> Nach Aussage eines Bekannten, der ein H2 Fahrzeug auf der Arbeit 
>>> fährt, ist das Teil, wenn es 4 Wochen nur herumsteht so leer, dass 
>>> man nicht mehr zur Tankstelle kommt.
>>
>> Dann ist da wohl was kaputt.
> 
> BMW meint, das sei normal so.

Das mag für BMW normal sein, Stand der Technik ist es nicht - bei CFK 
Drucktanks hat man wohl recht taugliche Diffusionssperren gefunden.  Ich 
hab jetzt auf die Schnelle keine genauen Zahlen, aber die 
Diffusionsverluste werden allgemein als "unmeßbar" bezeichnet.

Auch Rolf fragte schon, was für eine Technik da eingesetzt wird. Sollte 
die Karre mit Flüssigwasserstoff betankt werden, kann ich mir solche 
Verluste schon vorstellen, das geht eher noch schneller. Was wiederum 
der Grund ist, warum das keiner (?) mehr macht.

Hanno

-- 
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness.
- John Kenneth Galbraith

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                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-04 19:43 +0200
                Re: -20°C Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2023-05-05 15:12 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-08 12:53 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-08 13:37 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2023-05-09 22:37 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-09 23:01 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-26 11:35 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-08 13:54 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Peter Heirich" <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2023-05-08 17:05 +0000
                Re: -20°C Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2023-05-08 23:23 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-09 22:32 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-26 11:40 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-10 23:30 +0200
                Re: -20°C Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2023-05-04 21:55 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-05 08:42 +0200
                Re: -20°C Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2023-05-05 21:55 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-08 13:08 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-08 13:44 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-09 22:59 +0200
                Re: -20°C Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2023-05-08 23:45 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Peter Heirich" <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2023-05-09 00:04 +0000
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-10 12:48 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-10 13:59 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-10 16:25 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-10 17:31 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-05-10 18:45 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-10 18:56 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Peter Heirich" <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2023-05-10 21:41 +0000
                Re: -20°C Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2023-05-10 22:31 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-11 02:27 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-05-11 07:30 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-26 13:33 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-26 15:08 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-26 13:23 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 20:40 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-31 01:01 +0200
                Re: -20°C Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2023-05-10 22:25 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-11 20:57 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 20:43 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-31 00:59 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-31 10:44 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-31 12:04 +0200
                Re: -20°C Jan Bruns <ebay@abnuto.de> - 2023-05-10 20:01 +0000
                Re: -20°C "Klaus H." <kl.huller@web.de> - 2023-05-11 09:44 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-11 10:22 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-11 10:26 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-11 10:31 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-11 13:20 +0200
                Re: -20°C Jan Bruns <ebay@abnuto.de> - 2023-05-11 15:08 +0000
                Re: -20°C Jan Bruns <ebay@abnuto.de> - 2023-05-11 15:19 +0000
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-05-11 11:34 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 21:12 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2023-05-31 08:43 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-31 10:49 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-06-01 07:15 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-11 21:26 +0200
                Re: -20°C Jan Bruns <ebay@abnuto.de> - 2023-05-11 20:55 +0000
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-12 11:10 +0200
                Re: -20°C Jan Bruns <ebay@abnuto.de> - 2023-05-12 15:38 +0000
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-12 20:41 +0200
                Re: -20°C Jan Bruns <ebay@abnuto.de> - 2023-05-12 21:40 +0000
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-15 18:41 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 23:20 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-06-04 12:45 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Peter Heirich" <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2023-06-04 15:18 +0000
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-06-04 22:45 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Peter Heirich" <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2023-06-04 21:34 +0000
                Re: -20°C Martin Kobil <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-05 01:39 -0700
                Re: -20°C Martin Kobil <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-05 01:49 -0700
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-06-05 12:13 +0200
                Re: -20°C Martin Kobil <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-06 01:28 -0700
                Re: -20°C Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2023-06-06 12:52 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-06-06 13:16 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-06-06 18:46 +0200
                Re: -20°C Martin Kobil <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-07 12:58 -0700
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-06-06 18:39 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-04 19:52 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-06-04 22:54 +0200
                Re: -20°C Volker Staben <volker.staben@hs-flensburg.de> - 2023-06-05 13:50 +0200
                Re: -20°C Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2023-06-06 12:53 +0200
                Re: -20°C Volker Staben <volker.staben@hs-flensburg.de> - 2023-06-06 18:18 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-06-06 20:06 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Einzel <usenet-2023@einzel.de> - 2023-06-06 22:42 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-06-06 23:44 +0200
                Re: -20°C Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2023-06-07 08:42 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Einzel <usenet-2023@einzel.de> - 2023-06-07 16:29 +0200
                Re: -20°C Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2023-06-07 21:04 +0200
                Re: -20°C Volker Staben <volker.staben@hs-flensburg.de> - 2023-06-07 15:38 +0200
                Re: -20°C Gerd Schweizer <gerd@satgerd.de> - 2023-06-08 15:37 +0200
                Re: -20°C Volker Staben <volker.staben@hs-flensburg.de> - 2023-06-08 16:01 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-06-08 18:11 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Einzel <usenet-2023@einzel.de> - 2023-06-07 16:08 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-06-07 08:57 +0200
                Re: -20°C Volker Staben <volker.staben@hs-flensburg.de> - 2023-06-07 15:46 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-06-08 07:55 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Einzel <usenet-2023@einzel.de> - 2023-06-07 16:13 +0200
                Re: -20°C Volker Staben <volker.staben@hs-flensburg.de> - 2023-06-07 16:11 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2023-06-05 08:38 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-06-05 13:26 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-07 22:47 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2023-06-08 09:31 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-07 22:33 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-06-08 00:46 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-06-08 08:04 +0200
                Re: -20°C Gerd Schweizer <gerd@satgerd.de> - 2023-06-08 15:31 +0200
                Re: -20°C Josef Möllers <josef@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-08 16:49 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-06-08 16:58 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-06-08 17:20 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-06-08 18:57 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-06-08 18:17 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-06-08 18:59 +0200
                Re: -20°C Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com> - 2023-04-27 07:42 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-27 09:50 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-04-27 12:23 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-04-27 12:55 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-27 13:08 +0200
                OT (was: Re: -20°C) Andreas Neumann <nntp@postheo.de> - 2023-04-27 15:00 +0200
                OT (was: Re: -20°C) Andreas Neumann <nntp@postheo.de> - 2023-04-27 15:00 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-04-27 15:17 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-27 15:38 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-04-28 08:29 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-30 17:04 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-01 09:47 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-02 22:21 +0200
                Re: -20°C Harald Klotz <klotz0@freenet.de> - 2023-05-03 14:43 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-03 18:24 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-05-04 09:54 +0200
                Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-05-04 10:28 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-27 13:01 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-04-27 13:07 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-27 13:11 +0200
                Re: -20°C Harald Klotz <klotz0@freenet.de> - 2023-05-03 14:48 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-03 18:30 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Klaus H." <kl.huller@web.de> - 2023-04-27 13:08 +0200
                Re: -20°C Harald Klotz <klotz0@freenet.de> - 2023-05-03 14:34 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-05-04 10:06 +0200
                Re: -20°C Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2023-05-04 16:58 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-05-05 14:16 +0200
                Re: -20°C Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com> - 2023-04-29 11:21 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-29 23:36 +0200
                Re: -20�°C Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com> - 2023-05-02 10:30 +0200
                Re: -20�°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-02 23:14 +0200
                Re: -20°C Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-05-02 09:05 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-02 13:06 +0200
                Re: -20°C Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com> - 2023-05-02 16:30 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-02 23:31 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-02 22:29 +0200
                Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-02 23:33 +0200
                Re: -20°C Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2023-05-03 07:00 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Klaus H." <kl.huller@web.de> - 2023-05-03 10:10 +0200
                Re: -20°C Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-05-03 10:25 +0200
                Re: -20°C Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-05-03 10:23 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-02 22:27 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2023-05-02 23:43 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 23:37 +0200
                Re: -20°C Harald Klotz <klotz0@freenet.de> - 2023-05-03 14:03 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-03 23:32 +0200
                Re: -20°C Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-05-04 09:40 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-27 23:02 +0200
                Re: -20°C Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2023-04-28 20:58 +0200
                Re: -20°C Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2023-04-29 10:12 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Klaus H." <kl.huller@web.de> - 2023-04-29 11:28 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-29 23:45 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-29 12:30 +0200
                Re: -20°C Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2023-05-01 17:39 +0200
                Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-01 18:11 +0200
                Re: -20°C "Herbert. K." <H.K.@example.invalid> - 2023-05-01 22:16 +0200
                Re: -20°C Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com> - 2023-04-29 12:54 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-29 23:39 +0200
                Re: -20°C Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2023-04-28 14:49 +0200
                Re: -20°C Harald Klotz <klotz0@freenet.de> - 2023-04-26 21:30 +0200
            Re: -20°C Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com> - 2023-04-26 08:26 +0200
              Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-26 16:42 +0200
                Re: -20°C Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com> - 2023-04-29 11:38 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-30 17:26 +0200
            Re: -20°C Harald Klotz <klotz0@freenet.de> - 2023-04-26 21:21 +0200
      Re: -20°C R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2023-04-11 14:34 +0200
        Re: -20°C Ole Jansen <remove.this.kaspernasebaer@gmx.de> - 2023-04-11 14:57 +0200
        Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-11 16:17 +0200
          Re: -20°C R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2023-04-11 18:17 +0200
            Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-11 22:03 +0200
              Re: -20°C R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2023-04-12 00:05 +0200
                Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-13 19:19 +0200
                Re: -20°C R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2023-04-13 20:51 +0200
                Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-04-14 07:33 +0200
          Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-04-11 20:02 +0200
  Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-11 00:09 +0200
    Re: -20°C "F. W." <me@home.com> - 2023-04-11 09:16 +0200
    Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-04-11 11:11 +0200
      Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-04-11 11:12 +0200
      Re: -20°C Christoph Müller <chrnewsgroup@astrail.de> - 2023-04-11 11:46 +0200
        Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-11 16:18 +0200
  Re: -20°C Heinrich Pfeifer <nws@pfei.eu> - 2023-04-11 10:30 +0200
    Re: -20°C Heinz Schmitz <sch@example.invalid> - 2023-04-11 11:22 +0200
  Re: -20°C Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-11 16:23 +0200
    Re: -20°C Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-04-11 20:22 +0200
    Re: -20°C Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2023-04-16 14:21 +0000
  Re: -20°C Harald Klotz <klotz0@freenet.de> - 2023-04-21 21:04 +0200
    Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-04-22 09:24 +0200
  Re: -20°C Jan Bruns <ebay@abnuto.de> - 2023-05-10 17:52 +0000
  Re: -20°C Ole Jansen <remove.this.kaspernasebaer@gmx.de> - 2023-05-17 23:04 +0200
    Re: -20°C Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-05-17 23:16 +0200
      Re: -20°C Ole Jansen <remove.this.kaspernasebaer@gmx.de> - 2023-05-18 20:04 +0200
    Re: -20°C Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2023-05-17 23:31 +0200
      Re: -20°C Ole Jansen <remove.this.kaspernasebaer@gmx.de> - 2023-05-18 20:08 +0200

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