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Re: SR is just another name for LET.

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: SR is just another name for LET.
Date 2022-11-26 23:42 -0600
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On 11/26/2022 10:47 PM, Volney wrote:
> On 11/26/2022 12:40 PM, whodat wrote:
>> On 11/26/2022 11:25 AM, Volney wrote:
> 
>>> You keep forgetting Einstein disavowed the aether so he couldn't do 
>>> that even if he wanted to.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know how many times I've posted this link to the physics 
>> newsgroups. Please pay attention to Einstein's words (translated to 
>> English.)
> <snip>
> 
> He did write that, well after the 1905 paper. In the 1905 paper Einstein 
> did explicitly write that the aether was "superfluous" and wouldn't be 
> used. Read its first page. So every part of the 1905 paper does not 
> involve the aether in any way whatsoever. Meanwhile Ken tries to change 
> what Einstein wrote in 1905 to involve an aether.
> 
> What you refer to appears to be acknowledgement that the vacuum supports 
> what we now call fields., It is definitely not the "lumeriferous aether" 
> concept popular in 1905, which supported the transmission of light by 
> mechanical vibrations of itself. A substance simultaneously extremely 
> stiff (to propagate light at c) and so thin it did not resist the orbits 
> of planets over billions of years. 

Either you read and understand what Einstein said in his 1920 address or
you do not. He said it and that's not up for argument. There is an awful
lot of nitpicking in these newsgroups, much of it defensive of postures
taken, some inadvisably. All I can do is refer to the underlying facts.

I am not going to argue about this with anyone because that's a sport
around here that never achieves anything, and I wish you well with
your take on the issues. If you ever experience a growth shift in that
posture please embrace it, I am not a person who needs to know. In the
meantime it is now a focus you've applied and with that, you are likely
to have positive experiences as a result. My point is now made (again.)

 > Plus many many other contradictory properties.

N.B. Discontinuity among models is a feature of the state of the art. It
usually takes some personal adjustment to come to grips with that.

Best to you.

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SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-14 06:45 -0700
  Re: SR is just another name for LET. Flex Capitani <eaia@ipiafipi.ip> - 2022-09-14 16:04 +0000
  Re: SR is just another name for LET. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-09-16 08:52 -0500
    Re: SR is just another name for LET. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-09-16 13:39 -0700
      Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-16 23:42 -0400
        Re: SR is just another name for LET. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-09-16 23:33 -0500
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-17 17:37 -0400
        Re: SR is just another name for LET. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-09-16 23:50 -0700
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-17 12:45 -0700
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-17 17:34 -0400
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-17 14:58 -0700
              Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-18 14:28 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-19 04:58 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-19 14:22 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 07:14 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Jeiker Carboni <iree@eoaijoje.br> - 2022-09-22 14:34 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 07:41 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Jeiker Carboni <iree@eoaijoje.br> - 2022-09-22 14:49 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 07:59 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Jeiker Carboni <iree@eoaijoje.br> - 2022-09-22 15:12 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 07:50 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-22 15:12 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-22 15:08 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 18:55 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-23 06:46 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 07:54 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 07:34 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Jeiker Carboni <iree@eoaijoje.br> - 2022-09-22 14:43 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-22 15:19 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 18:50 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 08:22 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-22 15:22 -0400
        Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-17 05:52 -0700
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Chau Barbieri <ihue@ricrahhr.ce> - 2022-09-17 13:20 +0000
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-17 13:45 -0700
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 06:02 -0700
              Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ibes Confortola <osar@oblaealt.fe> - 2022-09-18 13:41 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-18 14:32 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-19 17:52 +0000
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-09-17 12:18 -0700
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-17 17:44 -0400
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 05:24 -0700
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 06:20 -0700
              Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ibes Confortola <osar@oblaealt.fe> - 2022-09-18 14:34 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-18 14:59 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ibes Confortola <osar@oblaealt.fe> - 2022-09-18 15:37 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 10:02 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-18 14:45 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 12:08 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-18 15:22 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 12:32 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ibes Confortola <osar@oblaealt.fe> - 2022-09-18 21:07 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 17:31 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-19 14:29 -0400
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ibes Confortola <osar@oblaealt.fe> - 2022-09-18 21:17 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 17:35 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 20:46 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-19 02:14 -0700
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-19 16:48 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-22 18:44 -0700
                Faking Russian Propaganda (was Re: SR is just another name for LET.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-09-18 22:05 -0500
                Re: dementia hit whodat wrote Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-19 16:58 +0000
                Re: dementia hit whodat wrote whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-09-19 13:00 -0500
                Re: Stupid Fake Russian Troll (was Re: dementia hit whodat wrote) Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-19 18:43 +0000
                Re: Stupid Fake Russian Troll (was Re: dementia hit whodat wrote) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-09-19 14:48 -0500
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 07:33 -0800
              Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ismael Stabile <tebs@sebiiiie.sm> - 2022-11-06 15:51 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 08:16 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemoveandReplaceATkevinaylward.co.uk> - 2022-11-10 20:55 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-11 06:54 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-11-13 14:06 -0600
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 07:57 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-14 11:19 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 10:08 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-16 02:03 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-16 06:41 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-16 12:21 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-16 18:57 +0100
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-16 15:31 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-16 12:49 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-17 05:33 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-17 14:22 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-18 05:14 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-18 14:48 +0100
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-18 12:54 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-18 10:41 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 08:21 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Jules Scotti <ujsl@ocjssuis.os> - 2022-11-20 17:53 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-20 19:03 +0100
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 14:00 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 10:46 -0800
        Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 07:10 -0800
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-11-06 13:39 -0600
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-06 19:52 +0000
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-07 07:21 -0800
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 08:55 -0800
        Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 05:52 -0800
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-21 18:47 -0500
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 08:11 -0800
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 08:21 -0800
              Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-23 02:48 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 06:18 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-23 12:18 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 09:25 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-24 06:20 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-24 17:03 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-25 02:52 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-25 01:07 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-25 14:27 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-25 14:37 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-25 18:45 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-25 15:00 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-25 07:32 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-25 18:50 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-25 16:45 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-26 01:10 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-26 06:15 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-26 12:25 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-26 11:40 -0600
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-26 23:47 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-26 23:42 -0600
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-27 15:57 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-28 08:40 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-26 23:21 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-28 08:30 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-29 21:44 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-29 22:34 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-30 07:59 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Lee Barsetti <erre@battaete.tr> - 2022-11-30 16:22 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-01 05:53 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Cornelius Evangelista <ciie@snecil.ta> - 2022-12-01 15:06 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-02 06:02 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-02 15:23 +0100
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-03 06:17 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-03 15:27 +0100
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-04 03:17 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-04 13:31 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-04 17:30 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-06 06:07 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Domingo Bicchieri <cmii@ioermh.ca> - 2022-12-06 20:10 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-06 16:34 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2022-12-06 16:15 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-07 00:57 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-03 18:09 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-03 17:00 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-04 17:40 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-06 06:17 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Domingo Bicchieri <cmii@ioermh.ca> - 2022-12-06 19:16 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-09 15:06 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Hanoi Cuocco <ouco@ocaoch.ho> - 2022-12-09 20:45 +0000
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-09 16:12 -0600
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemoveandReplaceATkevinaylward.co.uk> - 2022-11-25 17:20 +0000
    Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-09-17 06:17 -0700
      Re: SR is just another name for LET. Chau Barbieri <ihue@ricrahhr.ce> - 2022-09-17 13:26 +0000
    Re: SR is just another name for LET. Chau Barbieri <ihue@ricrahhr.ce> - 2022-09-17 16:41 +0000
    Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-18 05:43 -0800
      Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-18 12:57 -0500
        Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 08:11 -0800
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-20 21:38 -0500
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 05:58 -0800
              Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 06:02 -0800
              Re: SR is just another name for LET. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-21 19:22 -0500
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-11-22 12:31 +0100
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 07:26 -0800
                Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 08:50 -0800
  Re: SR is just another name for LET. "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-02 08:27 -0800
  Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-06 10:12 +0100
    Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-06 06:22 -0800
      Re: SR is just another name for LET. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-12-06 21:04 +0100
      Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-06 22:16 +0100
        Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-06 22:27 +0100
          Re: SR is just another name for LET. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-12-07 07:24 -0800
            Re: SR is just another name for LET. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-07 17:42 +0100

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