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Re: God created by humans

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: God created by humans
Date 2022-11-23 22:28 -0600
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On 11/23/2022 9:31 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:04:41 PM UTC-8, Tom Roberts wrote:
>> On 11/23/22 5:00 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
>>> On 11/23/22 11:51 AM, Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>> God is a thought in human minds.
>>>
>>> This is an assertion that you have made about the nature of deities.
>>>
>> No. It is a clearly-true statement about human beings and the way our
>> minds work. Since the only things our minds can process are thoughts,
>> anything that occupies our mind, and anything represented by a word
>> (symbol), is a thought.
>>
>> When your mind can process something other than thoughts, please let us
>> know. (That will be a HUGE challenge, as essentially the only mechanism
>> you have for 'letting us know' is words, which are merely symbols
>> representing thoughts.)
>>> Do your thoughts model what the mind of a deity might model?
>> No, I do not waste my time on such useless endeavors -- I have no
>> interest in deities, as they are pure fiction. All too many people waste
>> their time thinking about deities; worse, they get so wrapped up in
>> their thoughts that they attempt to impose their notions on others,
>> often by force -- that is a major tragedy of the human experience.
>>
>> Tom Roberts
> 
> Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - 
> courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth."
> - H. L. Mencken"

Paul, religion is all well and fine in its own right. The problem occurs
when some proponents attempt to grant it a validity that religion itself
clearly denies. Every religion proudly affirms that the only validity it
has is as a feature of *belief.*

Science, as we know it today, has as a basis, validity through
demonstration that it correctly predicts the behavior of nature,
and that clearly has no "faith" basis at all.

The lunatics are attempting to grant religious precepts a validity
equal to that of proven science. It doesn't wash. There will always be
some who try anyway, and there's no dissuading them. It is a topic not
worth the effort to discuss because if those nutcases were actually
seeking truthful answers they could be persuaded. And of course they
can't.

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  Re: God created by humans whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-20 18:06 -0600
    Re: God created by humans patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-20 16:32 -0800
      Re: God created by humans whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-20 20:46 -0600
      Re: God created by humans "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-21 10:40 +0100
        Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 11:41 -0800
          Re: God created by humans Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 12:40 -0800
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        Re: God created by humans patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-21 11:49 -0800
    Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 02:06 -0800
      Re: God created by humans whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-21 10:16 -0600
        Re: God created by humans Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 08:32 -0800
        Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 12:19 -0800
          Re: God created by humans patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-21 12:31 -0800
            Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 12:43 -0800
          Re: God created by humans whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-21 14:46 -0600
            Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 14:33 -0800
              Re: God created by humans patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-21 14:58 -0800
                Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 16:28 -0800
              Re: God created by humans whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-21 23:56 -0600
                Re: God created by humans Blake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in> - 2022-11-22 13:53 +0000
                Re: God created by humans whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-22 12:57 -0600
                Re: God created by humans Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-11-22 16:37 -0800
                Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 07:26 -0800
  Re: God created by humans "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 17:51 -0800
    Re: God created by humans patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-20 22:14 -0800
    Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 02:34 -0800
    Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 07:53 -0800
      Re: God created by humans "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 10:30 -0800
        Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 12:32 -0800
  Re: God created by humans Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-11-23 13:51 -0600
    Re: God created by humans Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-11-23 15:00 -0800
      Re: God created by humans Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-11-23 21:04 -0600
        Re: God created by humans Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 19:31 -0800
          Re: God created by humans whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-23 22:28 -0600
            Re: God created by humans Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 22:34 -0800
          Re: God created by humans patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-23 20:51 -0800
        Re: God created by humans Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-24 09:16 +0000
          Re: God created by humans Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-24 20:05 +0000
            Re: God created by humans Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-11-24 12:42 -0800
            Re: God created by humans Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-24 21:50 +0000
        Re: God created by humans Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-11-24 12:05 -0800
          Re: God created by humans beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-11-25 12:52 -0800
            Re: God created by humans Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-11-25 13:23 -0800
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