Re: Shahed-136

From	Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com>
Newsgroups	de.sci.electronics
Subject	Re: Shahed-136
Date	2022-10-30 01:27 +0200
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On 29.10.22 08:22, Marte Schwarz wrote:

>> Irgendwie werde ich dabei den Gedanken nicht los, daß dieses ganze
>> Wettrüsten im kalten Krieg auf einem Hirngespinst der USA/NATO beruht.
> 
> Irgendwie hatte ich bei der Nato/Uno deutlich seltener beobachten 
> können, wie die eigenen Leute drangsaliert und in ihrer Freiheit 
> nennenswert  beschnitten wurden

Stimmt, das machen die eher mit anderen Leuten.

> Ich habe im aktuellen Streit auch wenig davon mitbekommen, dass 
> amerikanische Truppen oder auch solche von NATO-Staaten auf russischem 
> Territorium (in den allgemein anerkannten Grenzen der Jahre unmittelbar 
> vor 2014!) im Einsatz wären.

Wieso die Einschränkung auf russisches Territorium? Läßt du die weg, 
fällt mir dazu eine ganze Menge ein. Vgl. auch den vorigen Absatz.

Hanno

-- 
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness.
- John Kenneth Galbraith

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Shahed-136 Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@kra.org> - 2022-10-20 14:13 +0200
  Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-10-20 17:45 +0200
    Re: Shahed-136 Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@kra.org> - 2022-10-21 10:47 +0200
      Re: Shahed-136 R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2022-10-21 16:00 +0200
        Re: Shahed-136 Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@kra.org> - 2022-10-21 16:26 +0200
        Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-21 17:25 +0200
          Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-10-21 18:07 +0200
            Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-21 18:56 +0200
              Re: Shahed-136 Gerald Oppen <Gerald.Oppen@web.de> - 2022-10-25 21:39 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-10-26 04:40 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-26 06:58 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-10-26 09:05 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-26 17:51 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-10-27 12:56 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2022-10-27 15:09 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-27 16:50 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2022-10-27 20:03 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-27 20:47 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-10-27 22:14 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-10-29 07:59 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-29 08:15 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2022-10-29 08:19 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-10-29 08:50 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Eric Bruecklmeier <u@5i7.de> - 2022-10-29 11:20 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2022-10-29 12:27 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Eric Bruecklmeier <u@5i7.de> - 2022-10-29 12:46 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2022-10-29 13:26 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2022-10-29 13:50 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-05 13:46 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2022-10-29 14:17 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Bernd Laengerich <Bernd.Laengerich@web.de> - 2022-10-29 22:05 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-05 13:50 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-10-27 21:10 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2022-10-27 22:29 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-28 06:53 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2022-10-28 07:15 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2022-10-28 12:52 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-28 18:28 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2022-10-28 22:43 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2022-11-07 14:32 +0000
                Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-10-29 08:05 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2022-10-29 16:18 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-05 18:00 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2022-11-08 21:39 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-10-28 11:00 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-10-29 08:22 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-10-29 10:40 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2022-10-29 10:44 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Peter Heirich <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2022-10-29 23:33 +0000
                Re: Shahed-136 Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2022-10-30 01:27 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-05 18:19 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2022-11-08 21:42 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-11-09 17:17 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2022-11-09 18:48 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-03 19:10 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2023-01-03 21:03 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2022-10-30 01:15 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-10-30 08:54 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-10-30 08:56 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2022-10-30 12:31 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-10-31 10:57 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2022-10-31 12:25 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2022-10-31 15:06 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-10-31 19:09 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-31 19:44 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2022-10-31 20:33 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-31 20:49 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-10-31 20:03 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-31 20:06 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-11-01 08:44 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-10-31 20:04 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2022-10-31 20:46 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-11-01 08:43 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2022-11-01 10:22 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-11-01 20:55 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-11-01 23:02 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2022-11-01 09:32 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-11-01 09:41 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Volker Bartheld <news2022@bartheld.net> - 2022-11-01 10:16 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2022-10-31 20:05 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.12-22@snafu.de> - 2022-11-01 08:43 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Michael Schwingen <news-1513678000@discworld.dascon.de> - 2022-11-01 09:26 +0000
                Re: Shahed-136 Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2022-10-31 13:09 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2022-11-01 10:43 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-05 17:56 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2022-11-08 21:38 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Peter Heirich <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2022-10-27 22:23 +0000
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-05 13:32 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-11-05 15:34 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-05 19:15 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2022-11-08 21:18 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Eric Bruecklmeier <u@5i7.de> - 2022-10-26 08:20 +0200
            Re: Shahed-136 Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2022-10-21 20:28 +0000
        Re: Shahed-136 Peter Heirich <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2022-10-22 04:03 +0000
          Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-24 12:03 +0200
            Re: Shahed-136 Ole Jansen <remove.this.kaspernasebaer@gmx.de> - 2022-10-24 13:51 +0200
              Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-24 22:44 +0200
            Re: Shahed-136 Peter Heirich <talk.usenet@info21.heirich.name> - 2022-10-26 18:49 +0000
      Re: Shahed-136 Gerald Oppen <Gerald.Oppen@web.de> - 2022-10-25 21:30 +0200
      Re: Shahed-136 Michael Strauss <mailms@mszet.de> - 2022-11-01 15:29 +0100
    Re: Shahed-136 Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2022-10-26 07:52 +0200
      Re: Shahed-136 Bernd <bnacht@web.de> - 2022-10-26 08:39 +0200
        Re: Shahed-136 stefan <adresse@ist.invalid> - 2022-10-26 17:53 +0200
          Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-09 11:34 +0100
      Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2022-10-26 16:41 +0200
        Re: Shahed-136 R.Kiefer.SPAEM@gmx.de (Ralf Kiefer) - 2022-10-26 19:14 +0200
        Re: Shahed-136 Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2022-10-26 19:35 +0200
          Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2022-10-26 20:47 +0200
            Re: Shahed-136 Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2022-10-28 20:00 +0200
              Re: Shahed-136 Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2022-10-28 20:45 +0200
              Re: Shahed-136 Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2022-10-28 22:59 +0000
                Re: Shahed-136 Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2022-10-29 08:22 +0200
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-09 11:39 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2022-11-09 12:49 +0100
                Re: Shahed-136 Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-09 14:36 +0100

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