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On 6/21/2022 11:04 AM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 6/21/22 8:51 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 11:46:58 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>>> Cs-133 clocks are used because at present the second is defined in
>>> term of the hyperfine transition of the Cs-133 ground state.
>>
>> There is no mechanical or atomic clock can claim to be standard.
> 
> Nonsense! At present, Cs-133 clocks _ARE_ standard -- they define what
> "1 second" means. And they do so wherever they are located.
> 
>> Because  a clock second on such a clock will represents a different
>> amount of absolute time in different frames.
> 
> So you claim but have failed to demonstrate. You are re-defining
> standard words to have your decidedly NON-standard meanings. THAT'S
> HOPELESS.
> 
>> The GPS uses absolute time [...]
> 
> No, it doesn't. It uses standard clocks at rest on earth's geoid to
> define the time coordinate of its ECI coordinates. There is nothing
> "absolute" about this, it is specific to the earth, and is valid only
> out to GPS satellite altitude (or so).
> 
> Tom Roberts

"Standards" function as intended because of communal acceptance.

Bear in mind they are never absolute. Go back to your introduction to
the sciences, typically some inclined plane exercises, where you were
instructed to eliminate inconvenient data. The elimination of 
inconvenient data is the second reason why standards work.

Anomalies aren't.

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  Re: Standard clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-15 10:46 -0500
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          Re: Standard clocks Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-21 15:16 -0500
            Re: Standard clocks Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 23:29 -0700
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                Re: Standard clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-26 11:22 +0200
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