Re: Toy code for currency handling

From	Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Toy code for currency handling
Date	2018-01-28 12:16 +1300
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On 01/28/2018 11:32 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 27/01/2018 22:21, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 01/28/2018 10:19 AM, bartc wrote:
>>> On 27/01/2018 20:19, Ian Collins wrote:
>>>> On 01/27/2018 01:46 PM, bartc wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Just using that directly would be an improvement:
>>>>
>>>> In other words you can't.
>>>
>>> Which language is it that is so difficult to compile that build times
>>> are a problem?
>>
>> Java?
> 
> So it isn't a problem for C++ with its massive libraries to be processed
> for each build? OK.

No one I know processes "massive libraries" for each build.  They are 
called libraries for a reason.

>>> This stuff matters. Pointlessly mangling and unmangling names does not
>>> help.
>>
>> It isn't pointless.  What part of "unique name" don't you get?
> 
> Input is C or C++ source code. Output is binary code to run. Where does
> 'unique name' come into the picture?

Now you are simply being obtuse.

>>> A mangled name is not used in the original source, and it's not needed
>>> in the executable binary. So it's purely an artefact of the tools used
>>> to convert one to the other.
>>
>> The tools that are independent from the language.  The tools which have
>> evolved around C.
> 
> So 'unique' names and 'mangled names' are also independent from the
> language and also dispensable.

How can code in module A call a function in module B without an means to 
identify it?

>>>>> What's the return type, and where does it
>>>>> go in the plain text version?
>>>>
>>>> A function's return type is not part of its signature.
>>>
>>> So the mangled names can't be even be used to extract API info from a
>>> library as they are incomplete.
>>
>> Irrelevant and no different from plain old C names.  Did you fail to
>> parse the line above?
> 
> So all the tools you use, compilers, linkers, whatever, are perfect. The
> schemes they use are the pinnacle of perfection, performance and
> elegance. There is nothing to be improved upon.

No they are not.  Neither are they broken.  Like just about everything 
to choose to criticise, you appear to have little idea how and why they 
work the way they do.

> I'm beginning to understand.
> 
> But some of us write tools, and some of us just use them. The view
> points are going to be different.

Most programmers write tools.  We also drive cars.  I assume you have 
built your own car because current models are imperfect.

-- 
Ian.

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