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Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel...

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel...
Date 2017-05-02 20:03 +0000
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JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-05-02 15:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>>> Since Fusion is host based disk management, a file-based set of volumes is possible. 
>> 
>> Nonsense. Core Storage presents a single volume to the system.
> 
> So, you're claiming that Core Storage is firmware and not part of OS-X ?

Nope, you're just trying to put words in my mouth. Core Storage is not "a
file-based set of volumes", nor is it a "RAID 0 array of disks". Squirm all
you want and that will not change.

> You also need to consider how OS-X manages disks so that the disk isn't
> too fragmented. You don't want that to conflict with another piece who
> keeps moving blocks around which fragments files.

Pure FUD. There is no such conflict. You pulled that out of your ass, like
everything else. 

>> reason Apple named Core Storage operations related to Fusion Drives
>> RdChunkCS, WrChunkCS: because data is moved at the block (chunk) level,
> 
> So just because you see "Chunck" IOS being performed does not
> mean that the volume set is striped 
> by block, it can be striped by file,
> and movement of files involves multiple "Chunk" IOs.

BZZZZZT! Wrong again. Fusion Drives aren't striped RAID arrays, you
extremely obtuse troll. And Apple isn't involved in some grand conspiracy
to lie to the world about the fact that Fusion Drives operate at the block
(chunk) level either. You're delusional.

> I know Ars is respectable, but those articles were written by bloggers
> who didn't consider all aspects 

Those bloggers somehow manage to back up their assertions with factual data
(including Apple's own internal documents and tools) which is referenced in
their articles. What blasphemous dark magic is this?! As opposed to *you*
who clearly knows far less than most people commenting here and can't back
up *any* of your assertions with facts... Gosh, who to believe?!

Keep digging a hole for yourself if you feel you must...

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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  Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-27 13:52 -0400
    Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-27 18:19 +0000
    Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-04-27 20:54 -0600
      Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-28 05:30 +0000
    Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-28 11:14 +0000
      Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-28 14:49 -0400
        Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-28 19:08 +0000
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        Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2017-04-28 19:02 -0400
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                Re: Five years later... Intel launches Fusion Drive for Wintel... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-02 20:40 +0000
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