Re: smart meter beat-up

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: smart meter beat-up
Date	2017-04-29 15:00 +1000
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>><bruce56@topmail.co.nz> wrote

>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/your-smart-electricity-meter-could-be-a-security-risk/
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/smart-meters-questioned-for-their-security-and-privacy-safeguards-20170426-gvsoxx.html

>>> It seems bullshit that somebody could tell what you're watching on TV

>> They'd certainly be able to see the power
>> usage change when you cook dinner etc.

>>> or when you open the fridge.

>> Yeah, that one can't fly given that fridges have to cycle anyway.

>>> The RF link on these meters only works over short distances.

>> Some use the mobile system.

>>> Hackers would have to loiter around your house.

>> I don't believe that they've actually been stupid
>> enough to have 'smart' meters that need the
>> meter reader to be close to the meter to read it.

> "They" are stupid enough to have three
> meter readers to read water,power, gas?

Not stupid so much as difficult to coordinate
completely automating all 3 meters at once,
particularly the ones like gas and water which
don't even have any power to run the meter off.

And they don't want to have any meter readers
at all, they want to be able to read all the
meters remotely completely automatically.

> So instead of just one thug (that's all
> that's needed) coming onto myproperty

You arent supposed to have any with a
properly implemented smart meter system.

> I get three!

You've always had 3 if you have all 3 services.

>>> And remote-reading gas meters are rare -
>>> only used for large industrial users.

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smart meter beat-up bruce56@topmail.co.nz - 2017-04-27 02:17 -0700
  Re: smart meter beat-up Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-04-28 00:42 +1000
  Re: smart meter beat-up "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 10:16 +1000
    Re: smart meter beat-up Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 23:47 +1000
      Re: smart meter beat-up felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-04-29 08:01 +1000
        Re: smart meter beat-up Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 13:14 +1000
          Re: smart meter beat-up "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:04 +1000
        Re: smart meter beat-up "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:02 +1000
      Re: smart meter beat-up "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:00 +1000

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