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Re: LG Smart TV Connectivity Issue (Wired)

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers, aus.tv
Subject Re: LG Smart TV Connectivity Issue (Wired)
Date 2017-04-07 14:28 +1000
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"BruceS" <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On 04/05/2017 12:30 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>> BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> felix wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>
>>>>>>> How long did it take to get the phone number ported ?  Took Paul
>>>>>>> weeks.
>>
>>>>>> I didn't port. TPG gave me a new number
>>
>>>>> To me, that would be a major hassle.  Everyone who has your old
>>>>> number needs to get your new one, and you need to remember the new
>>>>> number.
>>
>>>> Yeah, and the other problem is the lack of an entry in the phone book.
>>
>>> True, though I don't worry about that.  Anyone who needs to look me up
>>> in the book, I probably don't want to talk to.
>>
>> I've found the opposite. I have had a call from someone
>> who had everything stolen in egypt as a tourist and
>> needed to get me to tell them the numbers to call to
>> have their cards cancelled. Sure, a well prepared person
>> wouldn’t need to, but most arent that well prepared.

> That's a bit unusual a situation,

Yeah, its only ever happened the once.

> and I figure anyone who needs that sort of information from me probably 
> has my number in their phone.

He didn’t ring me, we always communicated using the net.

And the phone was stolen too.

>> The cops called me one Saturday to say I could come and pick
>> up the stuff some stupid kids had been caught with. They were
>> caught quite literally with a wheel barrow, helping themselves
>> to stuff out of cars they could get into. I had been out to a pissup
>> the night before, had got some grog in the drive thru bottleshop
>> and had managed to forget to lock the passengers door again
>> after that, in a 73 golf which doesn’t have central locking.

>> Sure, doesn’t happen that often.

> Now *that* should be a very unusual situation!

Yeah, never heard of any other kids being quite that blatant
with a wheelbarrow. That was back in the says before central
locking tho so wouldn’t be as easy to do anymore.

> My car only has two doors,

I have mostly avoided those.

> and they lock/unlock at the same time,

Yeah, but that was back in the days before central locking.

> but since it's a ragtop it's not really worth locking when left outside in 
> public overnight.  I do it anyway when in places like airport parking, but 
> that's mainly as defense with the insurance if anything happens.

Its actually illegal here to leave the car unlocked in public.

> So far, I've never had anything stolen from a car.

That was the only time its ever happened to me.

People I know have had it happen rather more
than me tho, I don’t live in a state capital.

>>>>> I effectively only have two choices of ISP here,

>>>> I don’t believe that. There are dozens that can provide a service to 
>>>> anyone.

>> I'd forgotten you arent in this country.

> I thought the accent was a dead giveaway.  Not to mention the Trump hat.

I turn off the video, some of those I usenet with
are so ugly that you need to reach for the round
filing cabinet under the desk to chuck into.

>>> There are other providers, but no really viable ones.

>>> I found a list of 15 in the area.  Several require optical fiber,
>>> which hasn't reached our neighborhood, so that's out.  Others are
>>> line-of-sight wireless, at substantially higher prices than the two
>>> big players,  and the hilly terrain makes that problematic.  We're
>>> really down to the phone company with its DSL or the cable company.

>> Weird how primitive your system is. Your mobile system too.

> Sometimes it seems we're only allowed to be "advanced" in military terms.

That’s overstating it a bit given that you lot did invent the net, consumer
credit, credit cards etc.

But accurate with being about the last place on earth
to still have lots using checks and magnetic stripe cards
and havent even bothered to get rid of 1c and 2c coins.

>>>>> both pushing phone service (and TV and even home security) as well.
>>
>>>> Just because they push it doesn’t mean you cant just say no to that
>>>> stuff.
>>
>>> Exactly.  I don't even bother to reply to their repeated attempts to
>>> get me to "bundle" with services I don't need.
>>
>> Just had a mate of mine have an optarse sales arsehole
>> tell him that while optarse does have no contract plans,
>> that he knows nothing about them and wont sell him one.
>>
>> Presumably his commission is much higher on the contract plans.
>>
>>> I get TV over the air, don't need their phone service since I switched
>>> to Ooma, and am not nearly paranoid enough to want a monitored
>>> security system.
>>
>> I don’t actually know anyone who has one so I
>> don’t know how well that works in practice anyway.
>
> AIUI the most valuable part of one of those systems is the yard sign.
> Supposedly, those discourage burglars, send them next door.  This
> house, like my last one, had a central security/fire alarm system, but
> I never paid for monitoring.  During one false alarm at the last house,
> we were discussing what happened after shutting it off when a voice
> came over the speaker asking us for our secret password.  My wife
> looked up at it in disbelief and asked "What?!"  The question was
> repeated, I informed them that this location wasn't supposed to be
> monitored, and we never heard from them again.  I think they'd crossed 
> some wires when a new neighbor had a system put in.

>> I'm actually the 'monitored security system' for my next door
>> neighbour and it only costs him free oranges, he's a fruit grower.
>>
>> And I don’t actually bother with oranges anyway.
>
> Our dogs make a lot of noise when anything unusual happens, like the mail 
> arrives or the water softener kicks in.

Yeah, I never bothered with a door bell, the dog left it for dead.

Bit of a problem for the postman tho. We have our letterboxes
outside, usually quite close to the hose, not on the road like yours.

I have 13 8'x8' patio doors instead of windows in all the rooms
except the bathrooms, toilets and kitchens and one of the bedrooms
looks over the letterbox on the wing wall at that end of the house.
The postman zooms around on a small motorbike to make it easy
to zoom up to the letterbox, put his feet on the ground and put
the letters and small parcels in the letterbox.

Apparently the huge great alsatian used to hurl himself against
the glass when the postman showed up and the poor bugger
was worried that one day the dog would come straight thru
and eat him alive. Would never happen in practice because
its armoured glass that you cant even get thru with a sledge
hammer as the sales fool delighted in demonstrating when
the doors were first released onto the market in the very
early 70s.

> If that isn't enough to deter a burglar,

Yeah, I never had any burglar problem while that dog was alive.

Not much of a problem with the neighbours either. One Italian
fella used to borrow garden tools for a while, but as dogs often
do, the alsatian used to hurl himself at the patio door whenever
he showed up and knocked on the door and he used to get so
close to shitting his pants that he stopped borrowing tools too.

> I have a revolver, a couple of rifles, and a few hundred rounds of ammo to 
> drive the point home.  I expect never to have to use those, but they're 
> available if I do.

That’s frowned on here post Port Arthur.

> Some guy recently heard three burglars breaking into his home, cleaned the 
> gene pool of all of them, and the police/DA response was to shake his hand 
> and charge the getaway driver with three counts of felony murder.

Yeah, you lot can be a bit more gung ho like that than ours.

>>>>> I got tired of porting the phone, and went to an independent VOIP 
>>>>> option, Ooma.
>>
>>>> Mine, MyNetFone can't port my number. I was planning to do that
>>>> instead of porting it to MyRepublic but discovered that they cant
>>>> port my number. And the MNF Whirlpool offer has no fixed monthly
>>>> charge at all, so is much better value than Ooma.
>>
>>> The basic Ooma has no fixed monthly charge.  Our (U.S.) federal and
>>> state governments charge taxes for phone service (unless you're a
>>> social parasite, in which case they provide it free!), and phone
>>> service providers pass those taxes along.  I like the blacklists
>>> enough, and I think there was something else included, that the
>>> $10/month is acceptable to me.
>>
>> Yeah, your system is quite different with you paying for incoming
>> calls from mobiles. We don’t, so don’t need blacklists.

> I don't pay per-call on the home (Ooma) line,

Yeah, true, forgot about that.

> I just don't want to be bothered by all the scammers, telemarketers, 
> opinion polls, etc.

Ours mostly use fake varying numbers apart from the pollsters.

> Anyone on one of the blacklists gets a "number no longer in service" 
> message if they try to call, and my phone doesn't ring.  The phone system 
> itself (a Panasonic cordless set) has an option to block numbers, but it's 
> a short list, and it still has to let them ring at least once to get the 
> caller id info.

It should suppress the first ring so it isnt audible.

>>>>> Now I just get Internet service from whichever provider has the best
>>>>> deal at the time, and should never have to port my number or deal
>>>>> with the hassle of telling everyone my new number, unless Ooma fails.
>>
>>>> But pay significantly more for that.
>>
>>> I'm not sure what you mean.
>>
>> $10 per month is a lot more than $0 per month.
>
> Ah, right.  The $0 is only an option if I go for the Ooma basic plan.
>
>>> I pay a lot less than what I used to for phone service through the
>>> phone or cable companies,
>>
>> I pay a little less for FTTN than I paid
>> for a phone service and adsl2+ service
>> and get that voip service for free.
>>
>> Only viable for incoming calls for free tho,
>> but its only $10/month for unlimited calls
>> to landlines and $20/month for unlimited
>> calls to landlines and mobiles and $30/month
>> for unlimited calls to 40 international countrys.
>>
>> Our line rent for a landline is well over $35/month now.

> You have to pay that for the line if you're on DSL, independent of the 
> charge for the DSL service?

With the old monopoly telco. Since they lost their monopoly,
some of the newer players do offer what they call a naked
service, no POTS phone service and no need to pay for that.

But they have to have their own DSLAMs in the exchange or
RIM or CMUX to be able to do that and only one has their own
DSLAMs in my town and they don’t offer a naked service either.

>>> even though their service was essentially the same, minus the 
>>> blacklists.
>>
>>>>> Basic phone service with them is free, just buy the device and pay
>>>>> the taxes.  Of course they push other services, and I use their
>>>>> $10USD/month phone service, with blacklists and other features.
>>
>>>> I do use MNF for all outgoing calls to landlines. I use the mobile
>>>> for calls to mobiles and when out of the house.
>>
>>> I rarely use my mobile,
>>
>> I use it a lot now that we coordinate the opening
>> times of the garage/yard sales on our mobiles.
>
> Most people I know use mobiles a lot,

Yeah, specially the kids. I was helping a couple of kids move
house, 'kids' in their 30s, and those buggers would ring each
other when telling each other what to move to the car.

> and many of them have given up on home phones.

Yeah, hardly any I know have a landline anymore.

> So far, that hasn't seemed the best option for us.

I would have if I could have had a naked service but since
I had to have the landline to get the DSL service didn’t bother.
Never called out on it tho unless the net was down or with toll
free numbers. We don’t have the free local call system you lot have.

It’s a close call for me now, I could have unlimited free
national calls and texts on my mobile for $25/month
but normally only spend $10/month.

The cheapest landline service with no calls included is $35/
month which certainly explains why so many don’t have a
landline anymore.

>>> so I have a very cheap service that works best with infrequent use.
>>
>> I do too, no fixed monthly charge, short calls cost me 12c
>>
>> I don’t usually spend more than $10/month for calls, texts and data.
>>
>>> It's a prepaid
>>
>> Mine is post paid.
>>
>>> with no monthly charge, just a charge for any day I use it
>>
>> Mine doesn’t have that.
>>
>>> plus a per-minute charge.  I could switch to get rid of the daily
>>> charge and have a higher per-minute, but my pattern of use is
>>> typically long stretches of no use, then moderate use while on
>>> a trip.  And now I'm thinking about the cost of the mobile, about
>>> $100/year, plus the cost of the Ooma, $120/year, and wondering just
>>> what I could get for $220/year...
>>
>> I don’t spend as much as that, $120 a year or so for the mobile,
>> nothing like that for the voip calls, wouldn’t even be $30 a year
>> at 10c a call, regardless of the length of the call. 

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