Re: LG Smart TV Connectivity Issue (Wired)

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.tv
Subject	Re: LG Smart TV Connectivity Issue (Wired)
Date	2017-04-11 03:24 +1000
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"BruceS" <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On 04/08/2017 04:44 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "BruceS" <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ocblev$1f00$1@adenine.netfront.net...
>>> On 04/08/2017 12:54 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:ekr6r6FaeajU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 4/7/2017 2:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "BruceS" <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:oc6lb5$4m4$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, but that was back in the days before central locking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but since it's a ragtop it's not really worth locking when left
>>>>>>> outside in public overnight.  I do it anyway when in places like
>>>>>>> airport parking, but that's mainly as defense with the insurance if
>>>>>>> anything happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its actually illegal here to leave the car unlocked in public.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind of futile with a rag top with the top down.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, stops the car getting stolen with a decent modern one.
>>>>
>>>>> I dont even bother to wind the windows up when I leave mine like that.
>>>>> It does have an immobiliser though, nobody is going to steal it.
>>>
>>> Even if I don't lock my car, it takes one of those special keys with
>>> the chip in it to start it.  If someone's dedicated and skilled,
>>> they're going to steal your car whatever measures you take.
>>
>> Not with modern security systems they can't. Sure, they can just
>> drag it onto a truck and drive off with it on the truck, but they
>> don’t have the truck to do that with and even that doesn’t
>> work quite a bit of the time. You couldn’t get my car onto
>
> That's the kind of theft I was thinking of, using a truck.
>
>> the truck where I park it at home and the dog would have
>> given the game away if someone was stupid enough to try it.
>
> At home, I park in a garage, so there's the extra step of getting into
> that.  The main garage door has no windows, so they wouldn't even know
> what vehicles are in there without coming through the gate into the 
> backyard.

I don’t have a garage or even a carport, but the car is parked
in such a way that its impossible to drag it onto a truck. You
couldn’t physically drag it to where it could be winched onto
a truck and the steering is on full lock too, so you couldn’t
even wreck the parking break and get it out of gear and
use gorillas to move it to where the truck could get to.

And the dog would give the game away even if you
showed up with a truck anyway, let alone the apes trying
to get into the car. And its not the sort of car anyone
would want to go to that much trouble for anyway.

> I was thinking more of when I park it in public.

Even that’s not as easy as it looks. In theory if the car is parked
on the side of the road, you can just show up with a truck and
drag it onto the truck with the winch, but you are sure to be
noticed doing that, blocking the traffic with the truck. And its
easy enough to have a tracking system in the car which sees
the cops show up as its being dragged onto the truck.

Not that easy in a normal carpark either.

Sure, it wouldn’t be hard to make it look like a car
repossession, but again, the car is of no interest to
anyone to go to that much trouble. I'm not stupid
enough to have a high value car that’s worth stealing.

>>> AIUI, car thieves focus more on very common cars, as they're easy to 
>>> sell (or sell the parts from, more likely).

>> And are now into full home invasion to get the keys
>> so they can just drive it away, and fuck you over so
>> you can't ring the cops and tell them its been stolen.

> Here, of course, the thieves have to be more desperate to risk going into 
> the house to get the keys.  I'm only moderately armed, but one of my 
> neighbors has literally dozens of firearms, and who knows how much ammo 
> (he makes his own), with no way of knowing from outside his house.  His 
> son is with the sheriff's department, so cleanup from an incident could be 
> cleanly handled.

Sure, but the crims don’t know that and
may be stupid/drugged enough to try it.

>>> Mine has a standard,

>> So is mine.

>>> so anyone with towing ability could get in, locked or not,

>> by smashing the window, sure, but that would have the
>> car screaming its lungs out even if the dog was out.

And all us neighbours always show up when
one of the alarms starts screaming even tho
its mostly false alarms, even if its 2am etc.

> With mine, they could just cut the top if I had it closed.  I don't think 
> the alarm (automatically activated when I lock the car) would be tripped 
> from that, or from shifting to neutral.  I've never tested that, though.

Easy enough to ensure it would be on movement of the car.

> If anyone attempted to get into the garage or backyard, the dogs would 
> sound their own alarm, but again I'm more thinking of it being stolen from 
> a public lot.

Even easier to have a proper movement alarm and
automatic calling of the cops when its moved with
full tracking. Sure, in theory you can drag it into a
faraday cage truck, but that’s so rarely seen that
someone is going to notice it happening and no one
is going to bother with a car that’s only worth $2K

>>> put it in neutral, and haul it away.

>> Not possible with where mine is.

>>> I'm counting on them going for the Honda Accord parked two spaces away 
>>> instead.

>> Sure, they likely can't even drive a manual.

> In the States, that's quite possible.  Driving lessons are in automatics, 
> and many never learn a manual.

Just as true here, most of the kids can't drive manuals.

I was happy to lend mine to one of the ones I taught to
drive in his automatic, when he showed up by train here
with his 3 year old for a week or so. I had to lend mine to
a mate of mine and the kid, who is 35, used his automatic.

> We haven't had an automatic since I retired my '68, so we had to teach our 
> daughter to drive a manual once she had her basic permit.  That was kind 
> of fun.

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