Re: SA Greenies

From	Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Newsgroups	aus.electronics, aus.politics
Subject	Re: SA Greenies
Date	2017-02-17 16:16 +1100
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On 17/02/2017 3:37 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 17/02/2017 10:04 AM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:57:51 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> **All of which pales into insignificance beside the mess made of
>>>> coal-fired power.
>>>>
>>> You ever smelled Geo thermal emissions (you would die if you did)?
>>
>> If you clean up those geothermal emissions by removing the toxic and
>> smelly substances, usually by either oxidation or reduction, you will
>> end up with *more* carbon dioxide and water, not less. This is *basic
>> chemistry*!
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>>>> They got Labor to stop selling it then had the coal stations shut
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Coal-fired power stations emit large amounts of CO2. CO2 is a major
>>>>>> contributor to global warming. Therefore, coal-fired power stations
>>>>>> must
>>>>>> be shut down.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why not sell them to Chinese THEN shut them down?
>>>>
>>>> **They should simply be shut down.
>>>>
>>> Maybe but not yet. Also there are coal powered that have zero CO2
>>> emissions.
>>
>>
>> There are no (none, zero, zip) coal fired power stations that have zero
>> CO2 emissions. There is no such animal as *clean coal*. What you are
>> stating is a chemical impossibility.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/q5x2yey
>>
>> Look on the above link for graphic of the perfect combustion of methane.
>>
>> CH4 + 2O2 ----> CO2 + 2H2O
>>
>> In case you don't get it, in perfect combustion you get carbon dioxide
>> and water. The ratio depends on the fuel consumed.
>>
>> Look at the formula under this heading in the above link;
>>
>>      Stoichiometric combustion of a hydrocarbon in oxygen
>>
>> Then look at the formula under this heading in the above link;
>>
>>      Stoichiometric combustion of a hydrocarbon in air
>>
>> In your car you get somewhat less than perfect combustion so toxic
>> substances are produced, most notably NOx, CO and HC. In these
>> straightened times, it is the role of the catalytic converter in your
>> car to convert these substances to neutral substances - notably water
>> and carbon dioxide.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/jzrkxk3
>>
>>   Reduction of nitrogen oxides to nitrogen and oxygen: 2NOx → xO2 + N2
>>   Oxidation of carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide: 2CO + O2 → 2CO2
>>   Oxidation of unburnt hydrocarbons (HC) to carbon dioxide and water:
>>   CxH2x+2 + [(3x+1)/2]O2 → xCO2 + (x+1)H2O.
>>
>> The above link will serve to prove just how naive you are.
>>
>>>
>>>>> Knee jerking has cost SA a reliable power supply.
>>>>
>>>> **I agree. When the Liberals sold electricity assets, they royally
>>>> screwed up.
>>>>
>>>  oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" do no better ever.
>>
>> The *only* way to control or minimise CO2 emissions is to minimise use
>> of fuel. Why do you think vehicle emission control bodies around the
>> world include fuel consumption reduction measures in emission standards?
>>>
>>>>> CO2 may not even be the or a player in Global warming.
>>>>
>>>> **It is a major player. With a CO2 level of 300ppm, we wouldn't have a
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>> [snip actual web page below]
>>>> **Humans ARE, ALREADY controlling the climate, you moron. Our CO2
>>>> releases have caused the present warming!
>>>
>>> Your credibility as a Climatologic is?
>>
>> You don't need to be a climatologist to understand the effects of excess
>> CO2 in the atmosphere.
>>
>>> Or you just copying Ordung?
>>> Mine is from a Criminologist Scientist (Doctor and Professor)
>>> translated from Swedish
>>> https://is.gd/NzPGOu
>>> original
>>> http://klimatsans.com/2017/02/05/klimatfragan-grundad-pa-vetenskap-eller-dogm/
>>>
>>>
>>>   https://is.gd/7iZhfG
>>>
>> If he is the one saying that it is possible to burn coal without
>> producing CO2, then I have to dismiss his credibility entirely.
>>
>> Might I respectfully suggest that you learnt nothing from your high
>> school chemistry classes. Fret not for it seems you are not alone. You
>> can redress this significant lack by undergoing some remedial studies.
>> Start with the links I supplied.
>>
>>
>
>
> methods that show promise,
> http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/12/19/future.coal.plant/index.html?_s=PM:TECH
>
>
> http://www.bbc.com/news/business-24225901

**You still don't get it. There's no such thing as 'clean coal'. There's 
dirty coal and slightly less dirty coal.

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:27 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:25 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:52 +1100
                Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 14:02 +0000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:49 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 09:58 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:20 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:23 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 14:16 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:39 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:16 +1100
                Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-20 02:21 +0000
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 14:28 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 14:26 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 17:15 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:03 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:38 +1100
                Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:03 +0000
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:15 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:45 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:26 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-19 14:32 +1000
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:57 +1100
                Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:04 +0000
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:46 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:16 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:42 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:23 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 09:18 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:48 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 16:25 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:08 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:21 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:31 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 12:37 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:04 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 16:12 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 10:10 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:33 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 11:15 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:44 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:42 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:54 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:21 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:53 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:17 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:10 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 10:20 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:27 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 11:28 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 11:29 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 19:43 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 19:53 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 20:26 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 20:42 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:56 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 23:59 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-21 00:39 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 01:46 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:30 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:52 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:07 +1100
                Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:10 +0000
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 16:26 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 10:41 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 16:06 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 21:36 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 08:57 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-26 18:01 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:41 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:33 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:58 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:31 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-22 09:29 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:26 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:44 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:55 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:45 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 13:07 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 13:39 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 14:55 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 15:19 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 17:34 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 17:47 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 18:04 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:56 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 21:54 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:55 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:17 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:32 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 15:00 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:19 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:29 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:14 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:30 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 15:43 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:23 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:35 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:36 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:38 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:49 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 16:11 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:05 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 23:06 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:16 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-02 08:13 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:49 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 14:26 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 08:15 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 10:48 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 11:16 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-03 10:35 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 14:52 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-03-02 14:22 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:03 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 18:12 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 09:46 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:57 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:40 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:39 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 16:38 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:28 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:06 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-27 18:52 +1000
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 06:14 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 17:43 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:25 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:47 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:46 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:23 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:19 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:57 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:46 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-21 12:14 +1000
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 18:10 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 01:00 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:33 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:45 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:28 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:46 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:08 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:30 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:18 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 13:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 10:20 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:22 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:07 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-13 10:54 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 00:34 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 14:45 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:28 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-13 15:36 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 15:52 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 11:05 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:19 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-15 10:37 +1000
              Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:32 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-11 07:08 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 08:13 +1100
  Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-09 22:17 +0000
  Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 10:05 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 10:36 +1100
      Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-10 14:37 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-10 08:46 +0800
    Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:28 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-23 12:52 +1100
  Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:24 +1100
  Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-10 12:42 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 16:00 +1100
      Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:26 +1100
        Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 22:06 +1100
          Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 11:58 +1100
            Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 15:36 +1100
              Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 18:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:15 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 22:44 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:01 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-12 08:16 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:03 +1100
            Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-11 16:45 +1100
              Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 15:06 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 17:28 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 21:07 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:14 +1100

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