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Re: Build Systems

Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Date 2023-08-20 09:25 -0700
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Subject Re: Build Systems
From bart c <bart4858@gmail.com>

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On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 15:15:45 UTC+1, David Brown wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 15:05, bart c wrote: 
> > On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 13:14:00 UTC+1, David Brown wrote: 
> >> On 20/08/2023 03:13, bart c wrote: 
> >>> On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 01:57:13 UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote: 
> >>>> sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: 
> >>>>> bart c <bart...@gmail.com> writes: 
> >>>> [...] 
> >>>>>> So how do you directly invoke the actual C compiler? 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> As if you don't already know. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> $ gcc -o a.o a.c 
> >>>> That creates an executable named "a.o". Bad idea. 
> >>>>> or 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> $ gcc -o a a.c 
> >>>> That invokes the compiler and the linker. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> To invoke just the compiler: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> gcc -c a.c 
> >>>> 
> >>>> which creates an object file named "a.o". If for some odd reason you 
> >>>> want the object file to have a different name: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> gcc -c a.c -o foo.o 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Giving an object file a name not ending in ".o" is almost certainly a 
> >>>> bad idea. (That's for Unix-like systems; other systems might have a 
> >>>> different convention like ".obj".) 
> >>> 
> >>> Also, none of these /directly/ invoke the compiler. Using your suggestion, gcc uses an invocation like this, on Windows: 
> >>> 
> >>> C:/tdm/bin/../libexec/gcc/x86_64-w64-mingw32/10.3.0/cc1.exe -quiet -v -iprefix C:/tdm/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-w64-mingw32/10.3.0/ -D_REENTRANT hello.c -quiet -dumpbase hello.c -mtune=generic -march=x86-64 -auxbase hello -version -o C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp\ccJo76DR.s 
> >>> 
> >>> It doesn't look very user friendly. 
> >> It isn't user friendly - nor is it intended to be. It is intended that 
> >> you use "gcc" (or "g++", "gfortran", or other drivers that are 
> >> convenient for other gcc languages) as the driver program that will then 
> >> invoke "cc1" with whatever options are needed. The options and 
> >> interface for "cc1" are not considered user documentation - they are 
> >> internal, might not be complete, and may change wildly between versions 
> >> of gcc. It is the options for "gcc" that are documented for user usage. 
> > 
> > How about 'ld'; is that supposed to be directly usable?
> "ld" is not part of gcc. It is part of an independent project, 
> binutils, that is often used alongside gcc. (You know this, of course, 
> and only feign ignorance.)

Why 'of course'?  Is gcc the only C implementation on the planet?

The C compilers I've used most often are complete, self-contained solutions. Mine doesn't even have or use a linker.

Why is so much is made of the idiosyncratic way that C works on Unix systems? Who cares that 'as' is in compartment A, cc1 is in B, ld is in C, the standard headers is in D1 and may D2, the runtime is E, gcc itself is F, and 'make' is, what, G? Just build the effing program!

When I install gcc on Windows, I really, really don't care how it's organised or who is responsible for what. It should take source code at one end, and output binaries at the other.

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Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 14:53 +0100
  Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-13 21:45 +0100
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 23:43 +0100
      Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-14 01:16 +0100
        Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 00:46 +0000
          Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 01:05 +0000
            Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 18:59 -0700
              Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 02:44 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 20:53 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Matthew Ernisse <matt@going-flying.com> - 2023-08-17 22:00 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 03:51 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 04:58 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Matthew Ernisse <matt@going-flying.com> - 2023-08-18 13:02 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-20 16:14 +0300
                Re: Dev on Windoze "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:05 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:16 -0700
            Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 04:03 +0000
              Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 10:14 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Karl Meyer <karlmeyer25@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 05:16 -0700
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 10:35 +0100
    Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-14 15:06 +0200
      Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 14:58 +0100
        Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:49 +0000
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 18:00 +0100
            Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 11:00 +0200
              Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:21 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 16:11 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 15:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems MJ OS_EXAMINE <m6502x64@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 08:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 16:44 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 20:00 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 18:03 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 17:01 +0000
                Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 17:07 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:17 +0300
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 22:57 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 18:49 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 13:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 23:09 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 23:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 15:55 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 01:05 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 01:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 11:37 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 12:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 15:16 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 16:34 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:43 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-16 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 22:25 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 00:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 01:02 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 02:56 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 11:21 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 23:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 00:43 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:45 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-18 00:24 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 17:46 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 18:29 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 19:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 14:55 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:19 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:43 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:19 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:57 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-27 00:01 -0700
                Re: Build Systems candycane@f172.n1.z21.fsxnet (candycane) - 2023-08-27 03:34 +1300
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-27 08:32 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 16:58 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 11:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 16:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 11:59 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-18 01:49 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 02:19 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 01:21 +0100
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 18:36 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:51 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 05:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 00:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:54 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:30 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 13:44 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 17:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 02:28 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 00:12 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 11:13 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 11:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 13:37 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 13:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 14:51 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:19 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 09:30 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 16:36 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 16:50 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 18:06 +0100
                Re: Build Systems kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-22 20:46 +0000
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 21:06 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-22 17:04 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-20 00:10 +0100
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:50 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-20 20:48 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-20 22:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 00:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 01:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 02:02 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 02:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 03:13 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 11:09 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 14:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:47 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 19:06 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-21 18:40 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:39 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 12:23 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 21:55 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-22 01:31 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 02:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 14:41 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 08:03 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 15:33 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 16:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 15:40 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:03 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-23 03:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 19:51 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 02:23 +0100
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 21:24 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 11:31 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 10:53 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 13:55 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-25 13:54 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 20:55 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:49 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 08:42 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 11:37 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-08-23 14:02 +0300
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 15:02 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 02:17 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 14:28 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-08-23 19:54 +0300
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-23 19:33 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 21:13 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 23:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-24 15:32 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-24 15:51 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-24 18:58 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-24 18:29 +0000
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-24 20:41 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-24 23:08 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-25 17:22 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-25 18:56 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 11:44 -0700
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                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-24 21:20 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 02:18 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-08-24 16:30 +0300
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-23 17:43 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 20:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-08-26 18:19 +0300
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                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 11:27 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-25 13:52 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 15:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 20:04 +0200
                Re: Build Systems candycane@f172.n1.z21.fsxnet (candycane) - 2023-08-26 00:47 +1300
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-26 01:42 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-27 01:16 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-25 05:51 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 23:17 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-21 02:52 +0000
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-21 03:02 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-21 06:05 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 11:32 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 14:42 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 15:59 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:38 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 18:16 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:02 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 14:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2023-08-19 19:10 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 14:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:13 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 06:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 16:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-21 14:43 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 05:52 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 14:30 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:18 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:11 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:45 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 00:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-20 14:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-20 17:28 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 20:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 14:50 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-18 13:19 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:16 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 15:32 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 07:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 07:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:11 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:32 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 04:02 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:26 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 05:43 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 11:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 02:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 03:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 13:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 12:55 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 02:14 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:01 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:20 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:31 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-19 14:06 +0300
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 04:39 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 16:46 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 16:00 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 18:03 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 19:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 16:44 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:21 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-18 15:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:47 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 10:49 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 15:16 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-19 09:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:43 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 14:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:46 +0200
              Really? (Was: Build Systems) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0000
        Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 09:54 +0200
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:07 +0100
            Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:42 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 12:14 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 05:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 15:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 09:10 -0700
  Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-14 14:49 +0200
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 14:39 +0100
      Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 11:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 02:56 -0700
          Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:23 -0700
            Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:45 +0100
              Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 03:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 01:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:57 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 12:19 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 15:18 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:45 +0000
          Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:30 +0200
            Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:58 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 14:06 +0000
              Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 17:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 21:46 +0100
    Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:48 +0000
  Re: Build Systems Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:16 -0700
  Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-29 04:43 -0700

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