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Re: Telstra email

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"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On 15-September-2016 1:23 AM, Gordon Levi wrote:
>> Trevor <trevor@home.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/09/2016 11:44 PM, Gordon Levi wrote:
>>>> Trevor <trevor@home.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/09/2016 5:05 PM, Gordon Levi wrote:
>>>>>> BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> If you use
>>>>>>> your ISP's email, it's a PITA to switch ISPs.  I learned that when I
>>>>>>> switched ISPs the first time, quite a few years ago.  I wouldn't
>>>>>>> recommend Gmail particularly (I have an account with them, another 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Hotmail, and one with Yahoo, mostly use Yahoo), but getting an email
>>>>>>> with an independent provider is good for mobility.
>>>>>> Why tie yourself to a particular provider? For about ten dollars a
>>>>>> year you can buy your own domain name that you can share with your
>>>>>> family giving everybody an email address for life. You can then
>>>>>> forward incoming mail to a real address which can be their ISP or an
>>>>>> email service like gMail. Mail forwarding is often included with the
>>>>>> domain registration - e.g. <https://www.domainmonster.com/>.
>>>>> Mail *forwarding* to your hotmail/gmail/yahoo account or webmail 
>>>>> access
>>>>> only. Costs extra if you want a proper email account though. And if 
>>>>> you
>>>>> forward to gmail etc. all you gain is a different email address.
>>>> That's the point. ISPs, email services, hosting services, domain
>>>> registrars and domain managers come and go. Your domain name and,
>>>> consequently, your email address lasts as close to forever as you can
>>>> get.
>>>>> Not
>>>>> much point unless you pay extra for proper email support IMO since not
>>>>> all ISP's provide email any more, just as many no longer provide 
>>>>> usenet.
>>>>> Only likely to get worse in future. :-(
>>>> I don't see the point in running my own email server either outsourced
>>>> or self managed. If my ISP, gMail, Outlook and Yahoo all disappear I
>>>> suspect the problem will also wipe out my server. Can you explain the
>>>> advantages of "proper email support"?
>>> Anybody happy with gmail, yahoo etc probably doesn't need a personal
>>> domain OR private email service. But IF you are going to have your own
>>> domain, better to have an email server rather than simply forwarding to
>>> what you already have for nothing anyway IMO.
>> Why? Why _not_ have your own domain? If you are only interested in
>> giving yourself a permanent email address what advantage do you see in
>> having an email server of your own. I have asked myself that question
>> and have decided that it just makes my email setup more fragile.
>>> The real point of a domain
>>> is to create your own web site, and most hosts include email service in
>>> their web hosting packages. But that will cost FAR more than $10 a year. 
>>> :-(
>> You are conflating a domain name registrar, a domain manager and a web
>> host. The only one of those that you must pay for is domain name
>> registration and that is a mere ten dollars a year. It can include the
>> domain manager and there are also free domain managers. I use ZoneEdit
>> <https://www.zoneedit.com/free-dns/>. There are also free web hosts. I
>> host my web site on a Raspberry Pi at my place but I pay ZoneEdit to
>> fallback to the free 000WebHost <https://www.000webhost.com/>.
>
> I never knew there was free webhosting available. (other than one drive, 
> dropbox, etc.)

Yes there is. Not the common, but yes there is.

> what's the catch?

None with the ones I use except that if you didn’t grab
one when they were on offer, you cant get one now.

Some do add advertising to the web pages you put up.

>> I'm not suggesting that Microsoft adopt my el-cheapo approach to a web
>> presence but this thread started with a discussion by ordinary users
>> about having a "permanent" email address. Why rely on gMail or Yahoo
>> if you can give your whole family a permanent and vanity email address
>> for ten dollars a year?
 

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Telstra email felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-09-12 11:22 +1000
  Re: Telstra email Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 11:46 +1000
    Re: Telstra email felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-09-12 12:52 +1000
      Re: Telstra email Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 13:25 +1000
        Re: Telstra email BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 08:32 -0600
          Re: Telstra email "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 05:43 +1000
            Re: Telstra email not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-12 22:52 +0000
            Re: Telstra email BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-13 12:53 -0600
              Re: Telstra email "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 06:04 +1000
                Re: Telstra email Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 09:29 +1000
                Re: Telstra email "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 15:33 +1000
                Re: Telstra email Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 15:58 +1000
                Re: Telstra email "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 04:56 +1000
                Re: Telstra email Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 08:40 +1000
                Re: Telstra email "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 09:41 +1000
                Re: Telstra email felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-09-15 11:06 +1000
              Re: Telstra email news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-09-13 23:53 +0000
          Re: Telstra email felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-09-13 15:26 +1000
            Re: Telstra email BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-13 12:58 -0600
          Re: Telstra email Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-13 17:05 +1000
            Re: Telstra email Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-09-13 22:47 +1000
              Re: Telstra email Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-13 23:44 +1000
                Re: Telstra email Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-09-14 14:42 +1000
                Re: Telstra email news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-09-14 14:10 +0000
                Re: Telstra email Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-15 01:23 +1000
                Re: Telstra email felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-09-15 10:59 +1000
                Re: Telstra email "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 14:06 +1000
                Re: Telstra email felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-09-15 14:48 +1000
                Re: Telstra email Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-15 15:50 +1000
                Re: Telstra email not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-15 22:25 +0000
      Re: Telstra email Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-09-12 16:46 +1000
        Re: Telstra email felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-09-12 19:24 +1000
  Re: Telstra email F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 16:15 +1000

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