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Re: Telstra email

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On 15-September-2016 1:23 AM, Gordon Levi wrote:
> Trevor <trevor@home.net> wrote:
>
>> On 13/09/2016 11:44 PM, Gordon Levi wrote:
>>> Trevor <trevor@home.net> wrote:
>>>> On 13/09/2016 5:05 PM, Gordon Levi wrote:
>>>>> BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If you use
>>>>>> your ISP's email, it's a PITA to switch ISPs.  I learned that when I
>>>>>> switched ISPs the first time, quite a few years ago.  I wouldn't
>>>>>> recommend Gmail particularly (I have an account with them, another with
>>>>>> Hotmail, and one with Yahoo, mostly use Yahoo), but getting an email
>>>>>> with an independent provider is good for mobility.
>>>>> Why tie yourself to a particular provider? For about ten dollars a
>>>>> year you can buy your own domain name that you can share with your
>>>>> family giving everybody an email address for life. You can then
>>>>> forward incoming mail to a real address which can be their ISP or an
>>>>> email service like gMail. Mail forwarding is often included with the
>>>>> domain registration - e.g. <https://www.domainmonster.com/>.
>>>> Mail *forwarding* to your hotmail/gmail/yahoo account or webmail access
>>>> only. Costs extra if you want a proper email account though. And if you
>>>> forward to gmail etc. all you gain is a different email address.
>>> That's the point. ISPs, email services, hosting services, domain
>>> registrars and domain managers come and go. Your domain name and,
>>> consequently, your email address lasts as close to forever as you can
>>> get.
>>>> Not
>>>> much point unless you pay extra for proper email support IMO since not
>>>> all ISP's provide email any more, just as many no longer provide usenet.
>>>> Only likely to get worse in future. :-(
>>> I don't see the point in running my own email server either outsourced
>>> or self managed. If my ISP, gMail, Outlook and Yahoo all disappear I
>>> suspect the problem will also wipe out my server. Can you explain the
>>> advantages of "proper email support"?
>> Anybody happy with gmail, yahoo etc probably doesn't need a personal
>> domain OR private email service. But IF you are going to have your own
>> domain, better to have an email server rather than simply forwarding to
>> what you already have for nothing anyway IMO.
> Why? Why _not_ have your own domain? If you are only interested in
> giving yourself a permanent email address what advantage do you see in
> having an email server of your own. I have asked myself that question
> and have decided that it just makes my email setup more fragile.
>> The real point of a domain
>> is to create your own web site, and most hosts include email service in
>> their web hosting packages. But that will cost FAR more than $10 a year. :-(
> You are conflating a domain name registrar, a domain manager and a web
> host. The only one of those that you must pay for is domain name
> registration and that is a mere ten dollars a year. It can include the
> domain manager and there are also free domain managers. I use ZoneEdit
> <https://www.zoneedit.com/free-dns/>. There are also free web hosts. I
> host my web site on a Raspberry Pi at my place but I pay ZoneEdit to
> fallback to the free 000WebHost <https://www.000webhost.com/>.

I never knew there was free webhosting available. (other than one drive, 
dropbox, etc.) what's the catch?

>
> I'm not suggesting that Microsoft adopt my el-cheapo approach to a web
> presence but this thread started with a discussion by ordinary users
> about having a "permanent" email address. Why rely on gMail or Yahoo
> if you can give your whole family a permanent and vanity email address
> for ten dollars a year?
>
>


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