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Re: FST Environment

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On 9/01/2021 6:55 am, Chris Burrows wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 12:49:12 PM UTC+10:30, Paul Richards wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm just following an interest in various languages. Having programmed
>> extensively in Borland Pascal I wanted to see what one of its
>> predecessors was like. I have FST and Topspeed installed under DOSBox-x.
>> The problems I'm having, as you will have noted, seem to be related to
>> the PATH and environment variables in that both compilers can't seem to
>> find certain files even if they are there.
>>
>> I'll be trying to develop fairly simple programs at first but eventually
>> I want to look at random access files and their use.
>>
>> Paul
> 
> OK - I see. I assume you mean 'successors' rather than 'predecessors'? The chronology / timeline of this family of languages is:
> 
> ... ALGOL60 -> Pascal -> Modula-2 -> Oberon
> 
> Modula-2 cleaned up most of the syntactic quirks of Pascal.
> 
> In the Modula-2 era software was accompanied by extensive printed documentation and very little online. e.g the TopSpeed system came with more than 1000 pages in the form of a User's Manual, Language Tutorial, User Reference, Techkit and Visual Debugger. Unfortunately, you would only be able to scratch the surface and not be able to get a full appreciation of the system without this. Personally, I wouldn't bother with FST except as a very simple introduction. It was very rudimentary. Another system to look out for is Logitech Modula-2, particularly version 3 if you want to run under MS-DOS. They were amongst the original and were the kings for many years. Their Visual Debugger was groundbreaking at the time. The full manuals are available online from BitSavers and the like.
> 
> Regards,
> Chris Burrows
> CFB Software
> https://www.cfbsoftware.com/modula2
> 
>

Chris

I didn't express myself very well - I meant that by the time Borland had 
developed up to version 7 of their Pascal they had incorporated some of 
Modula-2's features like separate compilation of what they called Units 
as opposed to compiling monolithic programs.

OK, I've got rid of FST and installed Logitech Modula-2 - the compiler 
kit and the toolkit, options 1 and 2. The installation program makes 
reference to an option 3, the Development Environment. What does this 
offer over 1 and 2?

Also got the documentation from a Bitsaver's mirror.

Thanks
Paul

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