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Re: I'd like to try Perl...

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Quoth pepa <papa.pearl@suomi24.fi>:
> 3.7.2013 13:48, Ben Morrow kirjoitti:
> > This is completely OT, but...
> > 
> > Quoth dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs):
> >>
> >> Sorry, I use cygwin (via *shell* in emacs), but I don't know
> >> what this "cygwin terminal" is.  I probably would benefit
> >> from it!
> > 
> > I believe it's just a cmd window running a Cygwin shell.
> 
> You seem to be trying to guess, Ben, in a way that is not very helpful.
> Not this this time anyway.

Last time I used Cygwin (quite a while ago now) the 'Cygwin shell' link
installed on the Start Menu just opened a cmd window running Cygwin
bash. IIRC there were other options available--some sort of rxvt
port?--but they didn't work right. Pipes, in particular, tended to
misbehave.

> There are multiple issues at hand here. For one, the "cygwin terminal"
> that I would recommend is mintty.exe, which comes with cygwin by
> default or bash.exe or any other shell executable, but mintty nowadays
> is the recommended one.

Am I to assume from this that the 'no ptys' issue has been solved, or
worked around, and that mintty is a terminal emulator that works? Or is
it just a shell?

This is actually vaguely on-topic, since I've had problems running
things from Perl on Windows in the past that could have been solved with
ptys. Of course, if only Cygwin processes understand the pty emulation
that wouldn't be much use to me.

> Next, my guess is that David either has not
> found a way to configure Emacs to use a cygwin shell inside Emacs
> – or David is using NTEmacs, not the emacs that comes with cygwin,
> and therefore has the problem described in
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/NTEmacsWithCygwin#toc1.

Hmm, glancing at that just confirms my opinion: mixing native Win32
facilities with ported-from-Unix facilities with Cygwin facilities just
leads to worlds of pain. Since, IME, native Win32 facilities cannot be
avoided entirely, this makes using Cygwin an exercise in hacking around
compatibility problems.

Ben

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  Re: I'd like to try Perl... "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+usenet@xs4all.nl> - 2013-05-20 16:50 +0200
  Re: I'd like to try Perl... Marc Girod <marc.girod@gmail.com> - 2013-05-20 12:44 -0700
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    Re: I'd like to try Perl... John Black <jblack@nospam.com> - 2013-05-21 13:58 -0500
      Re: I'd like to try Perl... dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) - 2013-07-03 02:31 +0000
        Re: I'd like to try Perl... Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> - 2013-07-03 11:48 +0100
          Re: I'd like to try Perl... pepa <papa.pearl@suomi24.fi> - 2013-07-03 18:10 +0300
            Re: I'd like to try Perl... Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> - 2013-07-03 17:45 +0100
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              Re: I'd like to try Perl... tmcd@panix.com (Tim McDaniel) - 2013-07-12 02:04 +0000
                Re: I'd like to try Perl... Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> - 2013-07-12 14:47 +0100
                Re: I'd like to try Perl... tmcd@panix.com (Tim McDaniel) - 2013-07-12 15:57 +0000
          Re: I'd like to try Perl... Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> - 2013-07-03 08:16 -0700
          Re: I'd like to try Perl... John Black <jblack@nospam.com> - 2013-07-04 22:12 -0500
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