Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD

From	"3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD
Date	2016-04-13 19:24 +1000
Message-ID	<dn6hi5FklbeU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message 
news:slrnngs01r.11na.g.kreme@amelia.local...
> In message <dn614sFglbcU1@mid.individual.net>
>  3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> "Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
>> news:slrnngreab.tm9.g.kreme@amelia.local...
>>> In message <dn4s1mF80joU1@mid.individual.net>
>>>  3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnngpm6f.pjn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
>>>>> In message <dn3tl8F7vbU1@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>  3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:slrnngpev2.k46.g.kreme@amelia.local...
>>>>>>> In message <110420162051163236%nospam@nospam.invalid>
>>>>>>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <nehgek$49c$1@dont-email.me>, Xeno
>>>>>>>> <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It appears BecexTECH bulk purchased Apple gear and is an
>>>>>>>>> unauthorised
>>>>>>>>> reseller. Effectively they are equivalent to a grey market 
>>>>>>>>> importer.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> receipt which Don has would, I expect, be the second receipt 
>>>>>>>>> issued
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the iPad in question, effectively making the iPad a 'used' device
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> though the packaging, etc. was never removed originally.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The iPad may not even have been intended for the Aus market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that makes absolutely no difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the ipad has *his* apple id, one which *he* forgot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That has not been established.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it has. He said that quite explicitly.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's been extremely evasive about the specific accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, just a bit less than completely unambiguously.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like he can login to HIS iCloud account, and
>>>>>>> that this other @mac.com address is one that is not his.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is his, he just can't remember the password because he
>>>>>> hasn’t used that except for the original setup of the ipad.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And it’s a @me.com address too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then that doesn't explain why he cannot go through the password
>>>>> recovery at http://appleid.apple.com to reset his password.
>>>
>>>> He can't because he doesn’t have the password for it and Apple
>>>> has now locked that so he can't even try guessing passwords.
>>>
>>>>>>> Apple will not reset the device because he bought the iPad
>>>>>>> from a third party, so they require a "chain of custody" proving
>>>>>>> that the iPad was sold properly as opposed to being stolen.
>>>>>
>>>>>> He does in fact have that from the operation he bought it from.
>>>>>
>>>>> He has A receipt, but since he nought it from a third party, he needs
>>>>> THEIR receipt showing it was purchased from Apple and not from some
>>>>> other unauthorized dealer who maybe bought it from the back of a 
>>>>> truck.
>>>
>>>> None of that is legally required. You are free to buy a used
>>>> ipad from someone who owns it without any receipt at all.
>>>
>>> I never said it was legally required, but Apple is not going
>>> to help someone remove activation lock without proof the
>>> iPad was legitimately purchased from a legitimate seller.
>
>> They have no choice on that legally.

> I don't believe you know what you are talking about.

You're wrong with that.

>>>>>> Apple stupidly demands that it should be an Apple authorised 
>>>>>> reseller.
>>>
>>>>> It is not at all stupid.
>>>
>>>> It is completely stupid and illegal in most jurisdictions too.
>
>>> You are entirely wrong.
>
>> Nope, in Australia it is actually illegal to require that
>> only authorised resellers can sell Apple products.
>
> That is not at all what the issue is.

Yes it is when Apple will only reset Don's ipad when
he has a receipt from an Apple authorised reseller.

>> And it is utterly illegal for Apple to tell anyone
>> what price they are allowed to sell it for too.
>
> Still not the issue at all.
>
>>>>> They are not going to reset an iPad without proof that it is not 
>>>>> stolen.
>>>
>>>> Using that mindlessly silly argument no one who buys an idevice
>>>> used will ever be able to have Apple reset their idevice and that
>>>> is just as true of anyone who no longer has the original receipt
>>>> because the idevice is way past its original stated warranty period.
>
>>> If you buy a used iOS device and it is still under
>>> activation lock you will not be able to use that iOS device.
>
>> And if it isn't under activation lock you will be able to.

> Which has nothing to do with this.

Then why did you bring it up ?

>>>> It works fine in Australia. He doesn’t even need to spend the money
>>>> to initiate that legal action, just the threat alone will be all it 
>>>> needs
>>>> for someone more senior than the usual phone answering droid to
>>>> realise that Apple will get done like a dinner by the legal system here
>>>> and that it makes sense for Apple to just cut to the chase and reset
>>>> his ipad when there is no possibility that it is a stolen ipad given
>>>> that he has the original receipt from BecexTECH and that BecexTECH
>>>> moves so many idevices that they can't be providing an operation
>>>> for thieves to use to get rid of idevices.
>
>>> I doubt very much that Australia is that stupid.
>
>> Your doubt is completely irrelevant, that is the law here.

> I am sure you are very confused or very wrong or both.

Says the fool that is just as sure that Don has stolen that ipad.

>>>> And if Apple is too stupid to do that, the legal system
>>>> here will fuck them over very comprehensively indeed.
>
>>> Uh huh. Sure it will.
>
>> It will, you watch.
>
> Uh huh.

Yep.

>> All that has happened so far is that a couple of
>> call center droids that don’t have a fucking clue
>> about the law have refused to do what the law
>> requires Apple do.
>
> Cite the law that requires Apple to disable
> anti-theft protections for a random unknown person.

Don isnt an random unknown person.

He is the owner of that ipad.

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                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 09:11 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:13 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:31 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:47 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:09 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 08:12 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-12 01:39 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 12:16 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:11 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:18 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 20:52 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:50 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 23:54 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 15:06 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 18:30 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 16:12 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 20:56 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 18:20 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-13 22:53 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 10:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 00:14 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:07 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 06:13 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:51 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:48 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 15:35 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 18:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:31 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:19 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 15:39 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:08 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:51 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:36 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:39 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:29 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:22 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:19 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:21 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 20:06 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 03:39 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:40 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:29 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:55 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 20:29 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 22:25 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-15 21:08 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:17 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:24 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-15 01:40 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:50 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:32 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:31 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:36 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 21:41 +0200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:16 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 05:09 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:57 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:42 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 22:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:12 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 10:21 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 18:29 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 09:10 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:05 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 03:41 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:11 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:01 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:36 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 11:18 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 10:37 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:52 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:03 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:14 +0000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:09 +0000
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Ammammata <ammammata@tiscalinet.it> - 2016-04-20 10:01 +0000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-20 11:37 -0400
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-20 15:57 +0000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-20 20:29 +0000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-20 20:29 +0000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-20 18:05 -0400
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:21 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-04-20 22:45 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Ammammata <ammammata@tiscalinet.it> - 2016-04-21 07:00 +0000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:14 +1000
      Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:23 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:26 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:53 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:49 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:15 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:18 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:27 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:17 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 16:12 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:01 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:36 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:23 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:03 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:05 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:41 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:50 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:40 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 06:48 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:11 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 08:54 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:32 +0000

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