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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.ipad, aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD |
| Date | 2016-04-13 17:53 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dn6c8sFj9kdU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (20 earlier) <1mlnd5w.12jzfe4hfmlqnN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <dn60leFgi0qU1@mid.individual.net> <1mlnmrb.18jqygf1mhnuttN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <dn666kFhpskU1@mid.individual.net> <1mlnpae.9myi4vm953fN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
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David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote >>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote >>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> Most if not all accounts have provisions to recover >>>>>>> from such situations. Why not Apple (*if* what the >>>>>>> loons say about this is actually true/fact). >>>>>> There was a provision ... he used up all his guesses >>>>>> of the password and the account was locked. >>>>>> There is apparently also another option - simply factory >>>>>> wipe the iPad using iTunes and start again (this time >>>>>> using an account you will remember the password for!). >>>>> That won't work. The iPad was linked to the >>>>> "Find my iPhone" feature of iCloud when it was set up >>>> Don has never said that. >>> He hasn't said enough to explain the situation clearly. >> Yes. >>> I'm making a logical deduction given the evidence. >> But can't explain why my iphone 5, which has never >> had the Find my iphone feature enabled, still required >> the Apple ID that was originally used to setup the >> phone after both the 9.3 and 9.3.1 updates. > Are you using other features of iCloud? Nope. > If so, I expect it required the password to sign in to iCloud again. It didn’t require JUST the password, it required the full Apple ID and didn’t supply the email address used. And doesn’t explain why it only required the Apple ID after both the 9.3 and 9.3.1 update, but had never required that in the past with any iOS update. >> And that was certainly the original 9.3 update because >> I applied it as soon as it was available. Although it is >> certainly possible that Australia never did see the original >> bad 9.3 update because it did show up here days later than >> it did in the US. That isnt at all unusual tho, to be later here. > iOS 9.3 was released worldwide on the same day. Not in Australia it wasn’t and I deliberately checked for it. > I installed it (in New Zealand) on three devices > within an hour of the Apple media event, Wasn’t possible here. > so I got the original iOS 9.3 release with the potential issue > with activation lock. That included my iPad Air, which was > subsequently offered the revised iOS 9.3 update. (My newer > devices didn't get a revised iOS 9.3.) > Those who weren't actively checking for the software update > wouldn't have been notified about it until their device did an > automatic check, which can take up to a week. Yes, but I did actively check for the software update and keep getting told that it was up to date. > Apple pulled the original release of iOS 9.3 a few days after > the media event, then released a revised build a few days later, > first for the iPad 2 (which had a worse problem in the case of > the GSM models) then for the remaining models. That was when I was offered the 9.3 update. > If your device didn't check for an update > within about three days of the media event, It did, because I checked for it manually. > it wouldn't have found the iOS 9.3 with the activation lock > problem, nor downloaded it. It would have reported iOS > 9.3 being available after the fixed version was released. > If your device did check before the original release was pulled, > it may have downloaded the original release automatically, but > if you didn't install it before Apple pulled it, then it was unable > to be installed, because Apple stopped signing that build. That isnt the case. > Judging from evidence in various sources, here > was the timeline (US dates, add 1 for Aus/NZ): > Monday 21 March: media event; original build of iOS 9.3 released. > Thursday 24 March: Apple stopped signing original build of iOS 9.3 for > older devices; image pulled from distribution. > Friday 25 March: Apple started signing new build of iOS 9.3 for older > devices; revised build of iOS 9.3 released for iPad 2. > Monday 28 March: Revised build of iOS 9.3 released for remaining > devices. > Based on the signing status, the affected devices which had a revised > iOS 9.3 build were: > iPad 2 > iPad (3rd generation) > iPad (4th generation) > iPad Air > iPad mini > iPad mini 2 > iPhone 4S > iPhone 5 > iPhone 5C > iPhone 5S > iPod Touch (5th generation) > That's all models introduced prior to 2014 (excluding those too old to > run iOS 9). It isn't tied to the specific CPU, e.g. the iPhone 5S, iPad > Air and iPad mini 2 were affected but the iPad mini 3 wasn't (all have > an A7 processor). > Newer models were not affected by the activation issue. >>> "Activation Lock" is a specific feature of Find my iPhone. >> You don't know that it is the activation lock. > No, but that is one of the possible explanations, > and Apple's support document suggests it is likely. >>> Since Don can't remember the password for the Apple ID originally >>> used to set up the device, he probably also can't remember whether >>> or not he allowed it to enable Find my iPhone during initial setup. >> I don't recall my iphone 5 ever asked me about that when I set it up >> and mine is a little younger than his ipad, not quite 3 years old now. > If you sign into iCloud at initial setup in recent iOS versions, > one of the questions is whether to enable Find my iPhone. I've > done this in the last year for at least four devices (iOS 8 and iOS 9). > I don't recall whether iOS 6 or iOS 5 asked that question, but Find my > iPhone was introduced with iOS 5 (October 2011) and that was the first > iOS version which could do initial setup on the device without involving > iTunes, so it would make sense for it to ask the question. I don’t believe mine ever did. >>> Apple's document describing how to deal with devices stuck >>> on activation after installing iOS 9.3 includes instructions on >>> how to remove the activation lock by turning off Find my >>> iPhone from the icloud.com web interface. >>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206203 >> But if that was the problem, Apple should have suggested >> that when Don rang them, which means that it is very unlikely >> that the problem is with Find my iphone. > If the me.com account was already locked (automatically) at the > point he rang Apple, then it wouldn't have worked because he > couldn't sign into icloud.com unless Apple reset the password. >>>>> (that is the specific feature which is now requiring reactivation). >>>> My iphone 5 does not have the Find my iphone >>>> feature activated and it still required the Apple ID >>>> after the 9.3 and 9.3.1 updates. >>> Asking for the Apple ID password is not the same >>> thing as requiring it to reactivate the device. >> It wouldn't let me use the iphone without supplying the >> Apple ID and it didn't just ask for the password, it didn't >> offer the email address either, I had to supply that too. > It provides a hint as to which Apple ID to use > (bulleting out most of the bit before the @). It didn’t with mine. >>> All of my devices (including newer ones not affected by this activation >>> lock issue) asked for my Apple ID password after I installed iOS 9.3. >>> I've used that same Apple ID for iCloud (including Find my iPhone) and >>> most of my app purchases (I have a few apps under a different Apple ID). >>> I didn't experiment with entering the wrong password or trying to >>> bypass that screen, but I expect that password request was also to allow >>> the device to sign in to iCloud. iOS 9.3 probably threw out old iCloud >>> authentication tokens, and needed the password to establish new ones. >> Doesn't explain why we only saw that with >> 9.3, not with previous major iOS updates. > I have had to sign in to my Apple ID on previous major iOS updates. I didn’t. > The sign-in screen and its behaviour may have been > different (too long ago to remember that level of detail), > but Apple may have changed the screen for iOS 9.3. >>>>> Turning off that feature requires access to >>>>> the Apple ID which was used to enable it. >>>>> Without that, the iPad cannot be activated again, >>>>> even if erased. It will still ask for the password for >>>>> the Apple ID to which it is linked via Find my iPhone. >>>> But you don't know that it ever did >>>> have Find my iPhone activated. >>> It seems very likely given the evidence. >> No it does not. Not only did my iphone which >> has never had Find my iphone feature enabled, >> require the full Apple ID that was used to setup >> the iphone initially before I could use the phone, >> Apple would have been able to see that Find my >> iphone had been enabled on Don's ipad and >> would have told him to do what you quoted >> above. > He couldn't because he didn't know the password for that Apple ID. >> And it wasn't just one Apple call center >> droid that had a brain fart on that, two didn't >> and just told him to bugger off when he couldn't >> provide a receipt from an Apple authorised reseller.
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Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 16:10 +1000
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Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:53 +1000
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Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:54 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-13 22:34 +1200
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 20:42 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-13 22:56 +1200
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:23 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 17:41 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:42 +1000
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Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:30 +1000
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Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-12 20:00 +1000
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Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 11:14 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-12 01:24 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-12 01:37 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 09:11 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:13 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:31 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:47 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:09 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 08:12 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-12 01:39 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 12:16 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:11 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:18 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 20:52 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:50 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 23:54 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 15:06 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 18:30 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 16:12 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 20:56 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 18:20 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-13 22:53 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 10:02 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 00:14 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:07 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 06:13 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:51 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:48 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 15:35 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 18:17 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:31 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:19 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 15:39 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:08 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:51 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:36 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:39 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:29 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:22 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:19 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:21 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 20:06 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:17 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 03:39 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:40 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:29 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:55 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 20:29 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 22:25 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-15 21:08 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:17 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:24 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-15 01:40 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:50 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:32 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:31 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:36 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:17 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 21:41 +0200
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:16 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 05:09 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:57 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:42 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 22:21 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:12 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 10:21 +1200
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 18:29 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 09:10 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:17 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:21 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:05 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 03:41 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:11 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:02 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:01 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:36 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 11:18 +1200
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 10:37 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:52 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:03 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:14 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:09 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Ammammata <ammammata@tiscalinet.it> - 2016-04-20 10:01 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-20 11:37 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-20 15:57 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-20 20:29 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-20 20:29 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-20 18:05 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:21 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-04-20 22:45 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Ammammata <ammammata@tiscalinet.it> - 2016-04-21 07:00 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:14 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:23 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:26 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:53 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:49 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:15 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:18 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:27 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:17 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:02 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:17 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 16:12 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:01 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:36 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:23 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:03 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:05 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:41 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:50 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:40 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 06:48 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:11 +1000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 08:54 +0000
Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:32 +0000
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