Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD
Date	2016-04-12 07:01 +1000
Message-ID	<dn2hlqFkjl7U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:110420161621432846%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <dn2ehiFjoq2U1@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A>
> wrote:
>
>> >> Think I better explain this again.
>> >
>> > You should probably start from the top since this is a new news group
>> > and we haven't seen any prior discussion about the issue.
>>
>> OK thanks Jolly, here is the original message I posted to the Apple 
>> community.
>>
>> The thread can be seen at:
>> https://discussions.apple.com/message/30057436
>>
>>
>> =====================================
>>
>> Apr 10, 2016 3:32 PM
>>
>> Apple have stolen my iPAD
>
> then file a police report.
>
> the reality is that nobody stole anything and you're coming off as a
> lunatic.
>
>> CC, Apple, Becextech, Australian Computers Newsgroup, The Apple Support
>> Community.
>>
>> I purchased an iPad from Becextech Australia in August 2012, (Order 
>> #19453)
>> and it was working fine until Apple decided
>> to upgrade their O/S on the 24th of March 2016, and have now locked me 
>> out of
>> using it. Becextech is an on line
>> Australian supplier: https://becextech.com.au/ and they are selling the 
>> whole
>> range of Apple products.
>
> apple didn't decide to upgrade the os.
>
> apple *alerted* you that an update was *available*, at which point
> *you* had to confirm the update for it to be installed.
>
>> After several attempts at getting it unlocked, Apple now tell me that the
>> Becextech receipt (which I actually found
>> after 3 and a half years) is a "Second Hand Receipt", (their words), and 
>> not
>> good enough for proof of purchase, so they
>> can't unlock the iPAD for me.
>
> then your issue is with becextech.

No its not. It is perfectly legal to buy a second hand ipad from anyone you 
like.

> also note that a used ipad may still be attached to the previous
> owner's account. if that's the case you'll need *their* account
> information to release it.

But that doesn't explain why he could use the ipad fine for 3.4 years.

I bet what actually happened is that he originally set it up using the
Apple ID which used the @me.com account and has since forgotten
the password he used with that particular Apple ID since he started
using a different one later.

>> I have been working on trying to get this sorted out since the date it
>> stopped working. Just spent another hour on the
>> phone to Apple talking to Paidro. I spent about the same time with Demi 
>> on
>> the phone. Both of these people have been
>> very good, but are obviously restricted in what they can do for me.
>
> that's because they need to be sure it's really yours versus a stolen
> ipad.
>
>> What I am now being told is that Becextech have to provide proof of 
>> purchase
>> of this product from an Authorized Apple
>> dealer before they will unlock this device. I am still waiting on a 
>> response
>> from Becextech. I doubt very much that they
>> can do anything for me, but I do need a response from them.
>
> that sounds like the correct answer.

> you need proof you legitimately bought the ipad and that it's not
> stolen.

And that isnt possible with something you bought used.

>> I can't understand why a company such as Apple would allow me to use a 
>> device
>> for 3 and a half years, then stop me using it.
>
> somehow you slipped under the radar.

Likely the update has only just started to ask for the original Apple ID
used to set it up originally.

>> I am a 73 year old aged pensioner, and I know that this is very, very 
>> wrong,
>> perhaps even a criminal offense. We paid
>> good money to Becextech, knowing a large portion of these funds flowed on 
>> to
>> Apple in some way, and we are locked out of
>> a product after nearly 4 years of use.
>
> if you really think it's a criminal offense, hire a lawyer and pursue
> it.

It would be cheaper to buy a new ipad.

> the reality is that it's not.
>
>> Apple say Becextech aren't an Authorized dealer, and this is the reason 
>> they
>> need to provide proof of purchase to Apple.
>
> apple would want proof of purchase no matter what.

Not even possible with an idevice bought second hand.

Or more strictly you can write anything you like and there
is  no way that Apple could ever know if it was valid.

>> It appears the problem is associated with me not knowing my password for 
>> a
>> "@me.com" account. As I don't have access to
>> the domain "me.com" what is the point in me knowing the password after 
>> nearly
>> 4 years.
>
> how does this 'me account' fit into the grand scheme of things?
>
> is it different than your apple id?

Bet he has more than one Apple ID and that that
Apple ID which used the @me.com account was
what was originally used to setup that ipad.

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  Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-11 17:48 +1000
  Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 15:58 +0000
    Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:07 +1000
      Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 15:18 -0400
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          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 15:55 -0400
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:51 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 19:58 +0000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:18 +0000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:50 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 23:54 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 15:06 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 18:30 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 16:12 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 20:56 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 18:20 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-13 22:53 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 10:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 00:14 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:07 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 06:13 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:51 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:48 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 15:35 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 18:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:31 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:19 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 15:39 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:08 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:51 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:36 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:39 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:29 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:22 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:19 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:21 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 20:06 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 03:39 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:40 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:29 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:55 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 20:29 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 22:25 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-15 21:08 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:24 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-15 01:40 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:50 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:32 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:31 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:36 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 21:41 +0200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 05:09 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:57 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:42 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 22:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:12 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 10:21 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 18:29 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 09:10 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:05 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 03:41 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:11 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:01 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:36 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 11:18 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 10:37 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:52 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:03 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:14 +0000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:09 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:23 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:26 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:53 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:49 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:15 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:18 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:27 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:17 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 16:12 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:01 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:36 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:23 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:03 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:05 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:41 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:50 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:40 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 06:48 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:11 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 08:54 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:32 +0000

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