Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD
Date	2016-04-12 06:40 +1000
Message-ID	<dn2gdaFk9kaU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message 
news:dn2dguFjejlU2@mid.individual.net...
> On 12/04/2016 5:23 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message 
>> news:dn2b0mFiqq3U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 12/04/2016 1:58 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>> "Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:dn02g3F18boU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> Apple have stolen my iPAD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CC, Apple, Becextech, Australian Computers Newsgroup, The Apple 
>>>>>>>> Support
>>>>>>>> Community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I purchased an iPad from Becextech Australia in August 2012, (Order
>>>>>>>> #19453) and it was working fine until Apple decided to upgrade 
>>>>>>>> their O/S
>>>>>>>> on the 24th of March 2016, and have now locked me out of using it.
>>>>
>>>> How exactly are you locked out of using it?
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried connecting it to a computer running iTunes and applying 
>>>> the
>>>> latest iOS update through iTunes?
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried restoring the iPad through iTunes?
>>>
>>> Hi Jolly,
>>>
>>> I currently don't have iTunes running on any computer system, however I 
>>> have spoken to Apple about doing this, and
>>> they say it will not work.
>>
>> It does in fact work fine. I've just done it with an iphone
>> 5 which does appear to have been stolen that one of the
>> neighbours kids was stupid enough to buy off someone
>> he knows. It does update iOS fine and then asks for the
>> Apple ID password which he obviously doesn’t know.
>>
>>> Please bare in mind that I have now spent many hours on the phone to 
>>> AppleCare Senior Technical Support Advisors. If I
>>> thought this would work, I would install and try, but they say NO.
>>
>>> Lock out?
>>> I get a message that I must use my "@me.com" account password to unlock 
>>> it.
>>
>> On further thought, that appears to be what was
>> used for the Apple ID when the ipad was first setup.
>>
>> So its asking for that again now, and since you have
>> forgotten the password for that account, it assumes
>> it’s a stolen ipad.
>>
>> While Apple will reset an idevice that has been locked
>> out when you have forgotten your Apple ID password,
>> it should be obvious why they want proof its yours.
>>
>> Maybe you don’t realise you can in fact have more than
>> one Apple ID, so the fact that you can still use a different
>> one doesn’t say anything useful about the one that was
>> used when you first setup that ipad after getting it.
>>
>>> They have now locked this account, and I can't even guess a password.
>>
>> I'd still threaten Apple with VCAT even if you don’t plan
>> to spend the substantial fee to use VCAT because they
>> may well back off from their demand that you be able
>> to show a receipt from an Apple authorised reseller for
>> your original purchase.
>
> Thanks Rod,

> If Apple allows their authorized re-sellers to sell onto large on-line 
> stores, then surely they must be responsible.

Who is responsible for what tho. I can see that if they suspect
that your ipad may have been stolen, and that is why they will
not reset it themselves when you can't remember the password
for the @me.com account that you presumably used to setup
that ipad initially after you had bought it and can't answer the
security questions now, that they may consider it may have
been stolen and was sold to you after it had been stolen.

> If not, they should ban all authorized re-sellers from on selling these 
> goods.

They can't do that legally.

> They can't have it both ways.

They can actually.

> As a consumer, it sticks me in the middle of their back yard brawl, and I 
> suffer.

Its more complicated than that. They are in fact attempting
to ensure that there is no market for stolen idevices.

> Apple got my money,

They aren't sure that they did given that Becextech is
not and never has been an authorised Apple reseller.

> and I can't get access to a product that they manufactured and sold to me 
> via their legal, or illegal system of sales.

There is nothing illegal about it and you don’t
know where Becextech got that ipad from.

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Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 17:23 +1000
  Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-11 17:48 +1000
  Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 15:58 +0000
    Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:07 +1000
      Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 15:18 -0400
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:48 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 15:55 -0400
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:51 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 19:58 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 15:58 -0400
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 06:19 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 06:08 +1000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 16:10 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-13 18:54 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:53 +1000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 20:56 +0000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-13 22:53 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 10:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 00:14 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:07 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 06:13 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:51 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:48 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 15:35 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 18:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:31 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:19 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 15:39 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:08 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 19:51 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:36 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:39 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:29 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:22 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:19 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:21 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 20:06 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 03:39 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:40 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:29 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:55 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 20:29 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 22:25 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-15 21:08 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:24 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-15 01:40 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:50 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:32 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:31 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:36 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 15:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 21:41 +0200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 05:09 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:57 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:42 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 22:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:12 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 10:21 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 18:29 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 09:10 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:05 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-13 03:41 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:11 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:01 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:36 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-12 11:18 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 10:37 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:52 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:03 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:14 +0000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:09 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:23 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 05:26 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:53 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:49 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 07:15 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-11 21:18 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:27 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:34 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:17 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:02 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:17 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-13 16:12 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:01 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-12 19:36 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:23 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-12 21:18 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:03 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:05 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:41 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 05:50 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 06:40 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-12 06:48 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:11 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 08:54 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my iPAD Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-12 19:32 +0000

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