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Re: Prostate State

From "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com>
Newsgroups uk.rec.sheds
Subject Re: Prostate State
Date 2023-10-27 15:08 +0100
Organization Salmeron and Malabuyoc
Message-ID <dUkINlAOR8OlFAN2@salmiron.com> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <uhasti$n87c$1@dont-email.me> <275236382.720023397.253466.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net> <XnsB0A9A77BA4896Factura3476@135.181.20.170> <20231026170120.afc1b3dbf07eeb324219ffa2@eircom.net> <kq1u0vFtfa7U4@mid.individual.net>

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In article <kq1u0vFtfa7U4@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd @ukrm
<chrisnd@privacy.net>  on Fri, 27 Oct 2023 at 14:58:55 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>On 26/10/2023 17:01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:27:50 -0000 (UTC)
>> Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> NHS says that while herbal remedies are heavily advertised, there is
>>> little scientific evidence that they work well. Saw palmetto has
>>> some evidence that it helps, but it is not conclusive. It may be worth a
>>> try if symptoms are mild.
>> 
>>      One of the catches with this sort of thing is that nobody is going
>> to stump up for clinical trials on something they can't patent and compared
>> to a proper clinical trial nothing that gets done for a research paper is
>> even close to conclusive.
>> 
>>      We got lucky with aspirin there would be no hope of getting it
>> trialled under today's regime. OTOH the poster child for the need for good
>> clinical trials is of course thalidomide - nobody wants another one like
>> that.
>> 
>>      My take - if it does no harm then it's worth a try but if there's
>> evidence or even strong indications that it causes its own problems steer
>> well clear.
>> 
>I saw a Hansard transcription today that suggests the Covid vaccines 
>have led to a large upsurge in 'extra deaths'* - notably in 2021 - and 
>that statistics have been 'massaged' to make this less obvious.
>I am a great believer in the principle of vaccination but rushed/lack of 
>sufficient trials always had the possibility of an unexpected surge in 
>something.
>
>Chris
>*Ie non-covid itself

debunked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gj8frd
-- 
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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Prostate State Tone <tone@email.com> - 2023-10-24 03:04 +0100
  Re: Prostate State Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 06:38 +0000
    Re: Prostate State "Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 10:35 +0100
      Re: Prostate State Tone <tone@email.com> - 2023-10-24 11:39 +0100
        Re: Prostate State Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2023-10-24 19:03 +0100
          Re: Prostate State Tone <tone@email.com> - 2023-10-26 21:38 +0100
            Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-26 22:21 +0100
              Re: Prostate State Tone <tone@email.com> - 2023-10-27 00:24 +0100
                Re: Prostate State "chrisnd@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> - 2023-10-27 14:52 +0100
                Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-27 14:57 +0100
            Re: Prostate State "chrisnd@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> - 2023-10-27 14:51 +0100
              Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-27 15:01 +0100
              Re: Prostate State Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2023-10-27 15:05 +0100
    Re: Prostate State Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2023-10-24 19:02 +0100
      Re: Prostate State Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 18:09 +0000
        Re: Prostate State "chrisnd@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> - 2023-10-25 13:54 +0100
      Re: Prostate State RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> - 2023-10-24 19:39 +0100
        Re: Prostate State Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2023-10-25 01:34 +0100
          Re: Prostate State RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> - 2023-10-25 12:07 +0100
            Re: Prostate State Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 14:34 +0000
              Re: Prostate State RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> - 2023-10-26 15:45 +0100
              Re: Prostate State Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> - 2023-10-26 15:27 +0000
                Re: Prostate State RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> - 2023-10-26 17:09 +0100
                Re: Prostate State Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2023-10-26 17:01 +0100
                Re: Prostate State Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 18:32 +0000
                Re: Prostate State "chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> - 2023-10-27 14:58 +0100
                Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-27 15:08 +0100
                Re: Prostate State Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> - 2023-10-27 20:46 +0000
  Re: Prostate State RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> - 2023-10-24 08:29 +0100
  Re: Prostate State Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> - 2023-10-24 08:41 +0000
  Re: Prostate State "Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 10:33 +0100
    Re: Prostate State Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2023-10-24 11:05 +0100
  Re: Prostate State maus <maus@deb2.org> - 2023-10-24 10:55 +0000
  Re: Prostate State snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-10-24 15:11 +0100
    Re: Prostate State Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 18:09 +0000
      Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-24 23:02 +0100
  Re: Prostate State Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2023-10-25 12:59 -0300
    Re: Prostate State "Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 17:28 +0100
      Re: Prostate State Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2023-10-25 19:01 +0100
        Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-25 21:59 +0100
          Re: Prostate State Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2023-10-26 08:39 +0200
            Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-26 11:11 +0100
              Re: Prostate State Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2023-10-26 18:54 +0100
                Re: Prostate State "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> - 2023-10-26 22:28 +0100
            Re: Prostate State Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2023-10-26 12:38 +0100
          Re: Prostate State "Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 09:19 +0100
            Re: Prostate State Tease'n'Seize <tease-and-seize@invalid> - 2023-10-26 10:03 +0100
            Re: Prostate State maus <maus@deb2.org> - 2023-10-26 14:07 +0000
      Re: Prostate State Tone <tone@email.com> - 2023-10-26 21:40 +0100
        Re: Prostate State Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> - 2023-10-27 20:58 +0000
  Re: Prostate State Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> - 2023-10-25 17:53 +0000
    Re: Prostate State Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2023-10-25 21:40 +0100
      Re: Prostate State RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> - 2023-10-25 23:10 +0100
        Re: Prostate State "Graham. " <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2023-10-28 23:06 +0100
          Re: Prostate State Tone <tone@email.com> - 2023-10-29 01:25 +0000
            Re: Prostate State "Graham. " <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2023-10-29 13:06 +0000

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