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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store |
| Date | 2015-10-09 16:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d7q9flF29hdU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (19 earlier) <slrnn1fmc4.gdg.jedi@nomad.mishnet> <mv8pfn$qfg$1@dont-email.me> <ui8ekuqneiil$.15deiz8j2o19w$.dlg@40tude.net> <d7q89pF1nqkU9@mid.individual.net> <mv8qtv$1mr$1@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:46:50 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Lloyd Parsons wrote: > >> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:24:14 -0400, Onion Knight wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:22:10 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> >>>> JEDIDIAH wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-10-09, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>>>> Snit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/8/15, 9:24 PM, in article >>>>>>> WLadnaWtio333IrLnZ2dnUU7-cOdnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" >>>>>>> <cumulus@mist.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/07/15 12:49, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 10/7/15, 11:35 AM, in article >>>>>>>>> p9udnfx_Dfl3-IjLnZ2dnUU7-UednZ2d@bresnan.com, >>>>>>>>> "GreyCloud"<cumulus@mist.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/15 20:26, nospam wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In article<D239C8B1.5F35D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit >>>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most from linux is *not* available. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing X >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, in way he is right... if you "forget nearly all GUI >>>>>>>>>>>> software needing X" you would be fine on OS X. It has better >>>>>>>>>>>> options in almost all cases, esp. those used by general >>>>>>>>>>>> consumers. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> yep. there are usually much better alternatives than stuff >>>>>>>>>>> that uses x. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/x-windows/ >> disaster.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even on Linux there are at least a couple of fairly big projects >>>>>>>>> looking to replace X. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be a good idea and hope it succeeds. I don't like X11 >>>>>>>> all that much, even tho I'm using it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> From the little I know of it and what the Wayland pages say it is >>>>>>> quite dated. Designed for a very different time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> You obviously know not just "little", you know absolutely nothing. >>>>>> Wayland is not dated, it is starting to appear in linux distros >>>>>> now. >>>>>> It will take >>>>> >>>>> Oh really. Then why does everyone in the Wayland community seem >>>>> to >>>>> discount the value of remote operation? >>>> >>>> They don't. Wayland contains a component whcih provides network >>>> functions like X, and also a X emulation for standard X programs >>>> >>>>> They act like it's 1980. While X haters have been hating on X on >>>>> Linux, the "other platform" has been adding remote access features. >>>>> They even managed some positive progress in that area. Now X style >>>>> remote access is no longer considered an obscure sort of feature. >>>> >>>> Fine. That does not detract from the fact that X as of now is already >>>> used only partially, KDE and Gnome do most of the painting themselves >>>> >>>>> Even some rubes take advantage of it. >>>>> >>>>> The times changed and caught up to Unix from 1985 and now the >>>>> "kids" >>>>> want to set Linux back 20 years. >>>> >>>> You are wrong about the way Wayland works. When it is fully present >>>> you will not see much difference in linux behaviour to the current >>>> state. >>> >>> That's too bad :( >> >> Hmm... If there won't be much difference in linux behaviour compared >> to the current state then why do it? >> > Because it makes the design cleaner. X contains a lot of "historical" > code which is practically never used anymore. For example X as of now > needs a "compositor" to render the windows which were painted by KDE > and/or Gnome, because X has access to the video hardware. That > compositor is a part of wayland, but much better integrated. Wayland > will make the painting of windows a "local" thing, bypassing the sockets > of X. X functionality will be loaded as a module only when needed. In > short: Wayland provides a GUI render engine with the advantages of Win > or OSX, but without the disadvantages. > > Not that there is something generally wrong with X. It is very fast, and > it provides more funxctionality than Windows or OSX. But Wayland will be > even faster, and have a cleaner design. Things like the font engine (as > another example) are "local" in wayland, which is in practice also the > fact with X, but X additionally contains the "old" font engine Thanks Peter. -- Lloyd
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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-07 12:35 -0600
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 11:49 -0700
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 22:24 -0600
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 22:53 -0700
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-09 09:45 +0200
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 08:00 -0700
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:13 -0500
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-09 18:22 +0200
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:24 -0400
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:28 +0000
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:32 -0400
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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 15:44 -0700
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 10:50 -0400
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0200
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 12:48 -0400
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:48 +0000
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 13:20 -0600
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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 07:29 -0500
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-10 19:37 -0500
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:29 -0400
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 13:34 -0600
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 19:54 -0400
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-07 17:22 -0400
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