Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-10-09 16:28 +0000
Message-ID	<d7q89pF1nqkU9@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:24:14 -0400, Onion Knight wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:22:10 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-10-09, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/8/15, 9:24 PM, in article
>>>>> WLadnaWtio333IrLnZ2dnUU7-cOdnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"
>>>>> <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/07/15 12:49, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/7/15, 11:35 AM, in article
>>>>>>> p9udnfx_Dfl3-IjLnZ2dnUU7-UednZ2d@bresnan.com,
>>>>>>> "GreyCloud"<cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 10/06/15 20:26, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article<D239C8B1.5F35D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most from linux is *not* available.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing X
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well, in way he is right... if you "forget nearly all GUI
>>>>>>>>>> software needing X" you would be fine on OS X. It has better
>>>>>>>>>> options in almost all cases, esp. those used by general
>>>>>>>>>> consumers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> yep. there are usually much better alternatives than stuff that
>>>>>>>>> uses x.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/x-windows/
disaster.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Even on Linux there are at least a couple of fairly big projects
>>>>>>> looking to replace X.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be a good idea and hope it succeeds.  I don't like X11 all
>>>>>> that much, even tho I'm using it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> From the little I know of it and what the Wayland pages say it is
>>>>> quite dated. Designed for a very different time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> You obviously know not just "little", you know absolutely nothing.
>>>> Wayland is not dated, it is starting to appear in linux distros now.
>>>> It will take
>>> 
>>>    Oh really. Then why does everyone in the Wayland community seem to
>>> discount the value of remote operation?
>> 
>> They don't. Wayland contains a component whcih provides network
>> functions like X, and also a X emulation for standard X programs
>> 
>>> They act like it's 1980. While X haters have been hating on X on
>>> Linux, the "other platform" has been adding remote access features.
>>> They even managed some positive progress in that area. Now X style
>>> remote access is no longer considered an obscure sort of feature.
>> 
>> Fine. That does not detract from the fact that X as of now is already
>> used only partially, KDE and Gnome do most of the painting themselves
>> 
>>>    Even some rubes take advantage of it.
>>> 
>>>    The times changed and caught up to Unix from 1985 and now the
>>>    "kids"
>>> want to set Linux back 20 years.
>> 
>> You are wrong about the way Wayland works. When it is fully present you
>> will not see much difference in linux behaviour to the current state.
> 
> That's too bad :(

Hmm...  If there won't be much difference in linux behaviour compared to 
the current state then why do it?


-- 
Lloyd

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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-07 12:35 -0600
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 11:49 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 22:24 -0600
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 22:53 -0700
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-09 09:45 +0200
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 08:00 -0700
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:13 -0500
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-09 18:22 +0200
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:24 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:28 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:32 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 14:35 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 13:46 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 16:05 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 15:44 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 10:50 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 12:48 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:48 +0000
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 13:20 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 13:47 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 20:05 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 19:12 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 12:55 -0400
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 12:58 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 07:29 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-10 19:37 -0500
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:29 -0400
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 13:34 -0600
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 19:54 -0400
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