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Re: Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject Re: Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from
Date 2015-09-13 04:58 +1000
Message-ID <d5jatuF8lmtU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote 

> I'm running XPProSP3 and I have a Thermaltake BlacX dual dock 
> with 2 bare internal-type drives in it, that connects to the computer 
> with USB, and I use each for an almost** complete backup it seemed 
> like a good idea.  If my internal drive fails, I just take one of the 
> backups out of the dock and install it internally.  
 
> I'm not sure but there may be weaknesses in this plan.  
 
> 1)   The drives never spin down, even when they haven't been 
> used for hours.  Now I'm starting to wonder if they even spin 
> down when the computer is sleeping or hibernating. ??   

Mine do in my dock. But I am running Win7 and a no name dock. 

Forget what it used to do when I ran XPProSP3, pretty sure
I would have been irritated by them not spinning down 
with that. Can't easily test that now because the one 
remaining system which still runs XP isn't running SP3. 

> I've looked for software to make this happen, and all 
> I found was HDDScan, which says it works for USB, 
> but maybe that doesn't included USB drives in a dock?  
> Might that be the reason it's not working for me?  
 
> What about connecting via eSATA.    Would that spin down 
> after my Power Options 20  minute since last use setting? 

I expect that depends on the dock given that the 
lack of spin down appears to be due to the dock. 
 
> Also, 
> 2)  I added these external drives to my boot.ini list so I 
> could test if the partitions were really bootable clones, 
> but I get an error message.****    Is that because I can't 
> boot to a HDD in a dock, at least the BlacX dock?   

Likely. 

> Is that because it's connected via USB and 
> USB isn't working until Windows starts.  

No, some motherboards can boot USB drives. 
 
> What about connecting vie eSATA? 

Should be fine. 
 
> **** "Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware
> configuration problem.  Could not read from the selected host disk.
> Check boot path and disk hardware". 
 
> **Except for temp files, prefetch files etc.  I'm 
> gradually enlarging the list of files not included. 
 
> ***Entries 2 and 3 are my efforts to boot from what I think are bootable
> clones of my System Drive, but wI get the error message at **** above.  
 
> The first two entries work. The first is my  newest XP parttion, and the
> second is the one I normally use. 
 
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Parallel Pro"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="1 Microsoft Windows XP Pro"
> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="2 Win XP Pro BackUPD 244 GB
> of 1.5 TB D2" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="3 Win XP Pro XP-New  300 GB
> of 500 GB D3" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="4 Win 98 on WIN98 internal
> drive" 
> C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
> = = = = =
> The last line showed up after I used a Windows disk and installed the
> Recovery Console.    It uses the Partition letter C: but I had no C:
> partition at the time!  Only D: and that's where it put it.  But it
> works so I guess until it gets further into the boot process MS has its
> own way of deciding drive letters. 

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Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2015-09-11 17:25 -0400
  Re: Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-09-11 19:14 -0400
  Re: Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-11 20:10 -0500
    Re: Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2015-09-11 22:39 -0400
      Re: Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-12 00:23 -0500
  Re: Dock drives never spin down; Can't be booted from "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 04:58 +1000

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