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Re: "Goodbye to Apple"

From Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: "Goodbye to Apple"
Date 2014-12-27 13:16 -0600
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On 2014-12-27 19:10:20 +0000, Nobody said:

> On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 08:24:11 -0600, Lloyd  E Parsons wrote:
> 
>> On 2014-12-27 14:07:00 +0000, 	flatfish+++ said:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 08:01:13 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I was checking-out this guys photos and blog, and encountered this:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.birdphotos.com/photos/blog?page=5
>>>> 
>>>> Unlike all the bullshit that the control freaks at Apple forced him to
>>>> do, his Android phone allows him to "simply and quickly" copy and
>>>> paste his sound files.
>>>> 
>>>> Most of us do not worship at the alter of Saint Steve.
>>>> 
>>>> Cue "Lloyd" to start raving about "the profits".
>>> 
>>> It's one of the weaknesses of Apple.
>>> Truth is, you do it Apple's way, mostly, or it's the highway.
>> 
>> Which is only a 'weakness' if you want it to be.
> 
> Why don't you email the guy and tell him all his complaints could really
> be seen as great things if only he wanted them to be that?

I don't think I could write in a rambling enough way for him or you to 
understand.

> 
>> But you are correct,
>> Apple does it the Apple way and if that isn't the way you want to do
>> things, you should re-evaluate whether you want Apple or not.
> 
> Hmmm... let me think... do I want Apple to delete my files against my
> will... or do I want another system that lets me do what I want to do...
> it's so hard to decide... but think about those Apple profits... yeah,
> baby... fsck me and my files... make Apple rich, rich, RICH!!!!

Sure get Linux on the desktop and be among the other 1.2% of computer 
users, that makes lots of sense -- NOT!

> 
>> 
>>> Tying everything to iTunes is a huge downside to the iPhone.
>>> But for most people, they submit and it does work rather well.
>> 
>> Because it works rather well most just go along without concern about
>> doing it another way.
> 
> Follow the herd.   If you need something Apple will tell you.  In the
> meantime, how about those profits?  Yeah, baby...Apple is RICH, and I'm
> so glad to be a part of that!

No herding required.  Apple is about the whole system, always was and still is.

> 
>> 
>>> Another example is Zedge which has tons of free ringtones, wallpaper
>>> etc.
>>> Works easy peasy on Android.
>>> Download from Playstore and you are good to go.
>>> 
>>> It's not so easy with iPhone.
>>> You need to download this helper application, then muck with iTunes and
>>> so forth.
>>> At least that was the way it worked when I had my last iPhone 5s.
>> 
>> 3rd party ringtones are still a PITA.  You can download them to your
>> iPhone, but it won't let you use them until you massage the rig with
>> iTunes.
> 
> That's only a weakness if you want it to be, right?   In the meantime,
> how about those Apple profits?  Yeah, baby...

Yep, Apple's way is so bad that it makes them so much money they could 
buy a lot of the other tech mfgs, many of them with couch change.

You really work hard to earn the 'no brain' moniker!


-- 
Lloyd

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"Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-27 08:01 -0600
  Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-27 09:07 -0500
    Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-27 08:24 -0600
      Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-12-27 19:10 +0000
        Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-27 13:16 -0600
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-12-27 19:29 +0000
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-27 16:05 -0500
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-27 19:58 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-29 10:40 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-29 14:20 -0600
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-27 19:57 -0600
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-29 10:42 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-29 12:22 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-29 11:42 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 11:33 -0700
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-12-30 11:25 -0500
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-29 10:31 -0600
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-12-29 12:21 -0500
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 10:22 -0700
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 10:21 -0700
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-29 14:23 -0600
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-29 22:13 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-30 10:05 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 09:20 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 10:23 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 18:09 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 11:40 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 21:44 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 16:14 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 22:30 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 16:34 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 22:42 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-30 19:50 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 19:52 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-31 10:04 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-31 05:51 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-31 06:46 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-31 10:36 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-31 10:26 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 19:38 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 21:56 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 20:45 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-31 11:10 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 10:42 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 09:43 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 13:18 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 21:37 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 12:51 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 16:12 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 16:25 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 14:54 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 21:35 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 15:37 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-12-30 15:42 -0500
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2014-12-29 13:04 -0500
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 11:38 -0700
        Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-27 16:03 -0500
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-27 20:00 -0600
  "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-27 06:13 -0800
    Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-12-27 19:13 +0000
      Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-27 19:10 -0800
        Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2014-12-28 16:01 +1000
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-28 04:43 -0800
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2014-12-29 20:47 +1000
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-29 03:54 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2014-12-29 23:14 +1000
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-29 10:25 -0800
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-29 11:20 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-29 14:51 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-29 23:56 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-29 15:31 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-30 07:04 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 05:55 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-30 09:17 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-30 10:09 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 10:47 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 18:07 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-30 11:43 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 12:05 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 12:36 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 15:40 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 13:47 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 13:25 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2014-12-30 13:52 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 14:00 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 10:43 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-30 14:01 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2014-12-30 15:12 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 21:33 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 12:36 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2014-12-30 15:40 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-30 16:05 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 17:15 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2014-12-30 17:21 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-01-01 19:02 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 14:49 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 14:46 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 16:02 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-30 13:15 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 10:33 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-12-30 14:27 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2014-12-30 11:36 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 15:06 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 14:48 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-30 14:04 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 14:47 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 12:54 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 22:09 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-30 21:59 +0100
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-28 04:45 -0800
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-29 06:59 -0600
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-29 15:03 -0800
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-12-30 11:23 -0500
        Re: "Goodbye to Apple" TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2014-12-28 08:20 +0000
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Goblin <bytes4free@gmail.com> - 2014-12-28 02:22 -0800
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-12-28 10:22 -0500
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-29 06:10 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-12-29 08:20 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2014-12-29 13:45 +0000
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-12-30 07:55 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-29 10:06 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-12-29 10:16 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-29 10:21 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-29 10:06 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2014-12-29 09:22 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-29 11:49 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-29 13:18 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 11:39 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-29 13:04 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2014-12-29 13:50 +0000
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-12-29 23:39 +0100
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-12-30 07:58 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2014-12-30 13:32 +0000
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-01-01 08:04 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-12-30 09:15 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-01-01 13:06 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-29 11:23 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 10:35 -0700
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-28 11:28 -0700
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-28 07:05 -0800
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-28 10:43 -0500
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-28 10:06 -0600
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-28 10:27 -0500
          Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-28 11:29 -0700
            Re: "Goodbye to Apple" TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2014-12-28 18:51 +0000
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-28 12:54 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-28 11:27 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-28 13:33 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-28 12:52 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-28 14:19 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" charlescroyden3@gmail.com - 2014-12-28 13:23 -0800
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-28 15:57 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-28 15:20 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-28 14:35 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-28 14:29 -0700
              Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-28 14:13 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2014-12-30 12:37 +0000
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 08:08 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 06:54 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 10:05 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2014-12-30 21:46 +0000
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-12-30 14:20 -0800
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-30 18:42 -0500
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 08:02 -0700
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-30 09:42 -0600
                Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-30 08:58 -0700
      Re: "Goodbye to Apple" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-12-29 11:18 -0600
        Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 10:36 -0700
  Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-12-27 08:27 -0600
    Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-12-27 19:14 +0000
      Re: "Goodbye to Apple" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-29 11:39 -0600
        Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-12-29 11:32 -0700
  Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-01-01 13:22 -0600
    Re: "Goodbye to Apple" Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-01-01 13:41 -0600

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