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Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating?

From Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating?
Date 2012-06-18 22:20 +0200
Message-ID <a49gsoFu5kU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 06/18/2012 03:43 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 8:53 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>> Hadron quacked:
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Hilliard belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh look! It's the DFS and Foster idiot tag team.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I never worked in those divisions. I don't care what they used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for my job. I'm a System Architect and Project Manager. My job
>>>>>> is all
>>>>>> about collecting requirements and ensuring that we come up with
>>>>>> the best
>>>>>> solution. The operating system to be used can never be a
>>>>>> requirements,
>>>>>> as this will force the creation of a suboptimal solution. If some
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> requirements are low cost and reliability, as is common for embedded
>>>>>> systems, then Windows is not an option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why I am trying to explain good engineering to idiots
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> wouldn't know good engineering if it came up and hit them in the
>>>>>> face.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do know why... nobody likes someone telling them they're wrong,
>>>>> even
>>>>> if that someone is a stinking idiot. It takes surprisingly long to
>>>>> come to the point where you can completely ignore their puerile
>>>>> bullshit about you.
>>>>
>>>> So, you're backin up Hilliard when he lies about Windows not being
>>>> used?
>>
>> Ian didn't lie about anything, Quack, you bald-faced liar.
>
>
> Another stupid lie by turd chrisv.
>
>
>
> Moron Ian Hilliard May 21: "PC applications to not keep the traffic
> running, control the traffic lights, keep your bus on time, keep your
> trains running, provide the control for nuclear reactors, provide safety
> relevant systems for factories or detect if you are sick."
>
>
> Reality, as provided by DFS:
>
> "Windows PCs and/or Windows apps do ALL those things, and much much more.
>
> 1) traffic control:
> Sydney Coordinated Adaptive Traffic System
> http://www.scats.com.au/product_family_options.html
>
> traffic mapping and routing - Windows only
> http://www.ptvag.com/fileadmin/files_ptvag.com/download/logistics/info/Developer/Factsheet_PTV-MapServer_mapping_routing_desktop_en_2011.pdf
>
>
>
> 2) bus scheduling:
> http://www.trapezegroup.com/novus-flex
>
> 3) train scheduling:
> http://www.giro.ca/en/products/hastus/rail-scheduling.htm
>
> (note: are you really so ignorant as to think scheduling algorithms
> can't be encapsulated in VB (let alone C\C++\C#\Java\python etc) and run
> on a low-powered Windows PC to keep track of many thousands of vehicles?)
>
>
> 4) nuclear reactor and industrial control software:
>
> * whatever Windows apps they were using in the Iranian nuclear
> facilities that were hit by the Stuxnet virus.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet#Natanz_nuclear_facilities
>
> * Bushehr nuclear power plant in Iran:
> http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/Features/The-Nuclear-Issue-in-Iran/1581/2/
>
>
>
> 5) factory and building safety systems:
> https://buildingsolutions.honeywell.com/Cultures/en-US/ServicesSolutions/FireLifeSafetySolutions/HoneywellLifeSafetyManager/
>
>
>
>
> 6) who knows what a clown like you means when you say 'detect if you are
> sick', but there are a shitload of medical and dental apps for Windows,
> plus there are healthcare devices and monitoring systems running Windows
> and Windows Embedded.
>
> http://www.bostonatlantic.net/services-software-engineering.htm
>
> http://www.zoemedical.com/MPC%20Screen%20Shots.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> At least "Ezekiel" likes you, despite you being a piece of shit liar.
>> (Well, two peas in a pod.)
>>
>> Oh, I see you're backing-up a couple of shitty, useless "he was the
>> janitor" Linux-haters.
>>
>> You're a "true Linux advocate" (and all-around "nice guy"), "Hadron"!
>
> A far better advocate and nicer person than you, loser.
>
>
>
>

I know a number of these systems. They are legacy. The companies are now 
unable to sell new systems, because they are not very good.

Ian

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Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-16 12:33 +0200
  Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-17 12:18 +0200
    Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-17 08:28 -0400
    Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-17 12:23 -0400
      Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-17 18:58 +0200
        Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-18 00:30 -0400
          Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-18 22:14 +0200
            Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-19 08:50 -0400
        Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 11:45 +0200
          Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-18 22:17 +0200
      Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 11:43 +0200
    Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-18 07:53 -0500
      Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-18 09:43 -0400
        Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 17:44 +0200
        Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-18 22:20 +0200
          Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Bjørn Steensrud <bjornst@skogkatt.homelinux.org> - 2012-06-19 09:51 +0200

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