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Re: State Of The War

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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
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> On 2026-03-19, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 3/18/26 18:55, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2026-03-18 15:27, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2026-03-18, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/17/26 12:00, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-03-16, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, Trump keeps saying it's "almost over" and
>>>>>>> how we've trashed the Iranian mil and production
>>>>>>> apparatus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However ... NO news on finding all that uranium
>>>>>>> or even hidden bomb factories. If they didn't
>>>>>>> have a bomb before (I suspect they did) they
>>>>>>> sure as hell do by now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also ... The Strait. Iran may be down to the
>>>>>>> small stuff, but it can use that small stuff
>>>>>>> to TERRORIZE ship crews (and insurers) - so
>>>>>>> they ain't going anywhere soon. Iran has also
>>>>>>> cleverly disguised remote-control speedboats
>>>>>>> as little fishing boats. They are packed with
>>>>>>> explosives and can do MAJOR damage to a ship.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So ... NOT 'almost over'. SOME bits are over,
>>>>>>> but not a few other important things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carpet-bomb the Iran side of the Strait ?
>>>>>>> Might be necessary to get at missile launchers
>>>>>>> and artillery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reminiscent of "2 weeks to flatten the curve".
>>>>>
>>>>>     These sorts of things are NEVER as easy as they seem.
>>>>>     Doesn't mean they shouldn't be done, don't need to be
>>>>>     done - but don't expect 'easy' unless it's some tiny
>>>>>     3rd-world shithole. "Regime change" in, say, Ivory
>>>>>     Coast would be easy. Iran - NOT.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Iran is clearly run by FANATICS and has been since
>>>>>     the 70s. They're entrenched - deep and wide - and
>>>>>     hold all the firepower. A 'popular revolt' is
>>>>>     possible - but even thus it's unclear whether it
>>>>>     could prevail against the Imams and Revolutionary
>>>>>     Guard. Bad situation.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Remember "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" ? THAT
>>>>>     would have been the time. Nobody acted. The Shah
>>>>>     was an asshole but the Islamists were 10 times
>>>>>     worse. We all HOPED for a weak useless 9th-
>>>>>     century mess - got a serious world power instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Anyway, we HAVE done a LOT of damage to their
>>>>>     'military superiority'. This is good. However
>>>>>     they can still leverage 'terrorism'.
>>>>>
>>>> Indeed.
>>>> For 47 years the maniacs in Iran have been on a mission to destroy
>>>> the US and
>>>> any other state that does not follow Islam.
>>> 
>>> 47 years?
>>> 
>>> And how as that gone?
>>> 
>>> Has the US been destroyed? No?
>>> 
>>> How about "any other state"?
>>
>>
>>    The NAZIs did not destroy any other nations
>>    for quite awhile. Iran wasn't strong enough
>>    to try doing that either, until now - well,
>>    until last month anyway.
>>
>>    Iran had a HUGE number of good conventional
>>    weapons. It had a big enough navy to control
>>    the Persian gulf and beyond ... and float
>>    off to other countries. It had a clear
>>    ICBM program ... if you can orbit a sat you
>>    can put a Big Bomb on the rocket instead.
>>    It had large quantities of highy-enriched
>>    uranium - SOME of which it actually admitted
>>    to. FAIR chance they already have some nukes,
>>    just no good way, yet, to deliver them. An
>>    ultra/nuclear-armed country run by religious
>>    fanatics is BAD BAD BAD for the rest of the
>>    world ... which includes the USA.
>>
>>    But, hey, No Worries Mate ... right ???
>>
>>    Wave that little paper Neville ...
>>
>>    Fuckin' moron.
>>
>>    SAME mistakes made with world-conqueror types
>>    again and again ...
>>
>>
>>>> Trump in this term is the only POTUS who had the guts to try and
>>>> shut them
>>>> down.
>>>> The others just kicked the can down the road with useless
>>>> appeasement. 
>>>>
>>>> However, unless the Iranian people continue to rise up and take
>>>> control of their country, the maniacs will simply rebuild.
>>>> It may take 10 years, 20 years, maybe more, but they *will*
>>>> rebuild. The US can destroy the place physically and economically
>>>> but they will fall if THEY ALONE attempt
>>>> a regime change.
>>>> That has to come from within.
>>> 
>>> So you admit the whole exercise was a failure before it even
>>> started. 
>>> 
>>> Got it.
>>
>>    Ummmm ... remains to be SEEN whether this was
>>    a 'success' or 'failure'. Probably it will be
>>    something in-between. Better than before, but
>>    not everything everyone could want.
>>
>>    That's reality.
>>
>>    Make do.
>>
>>    But DO Something. Otherwise it's Pearl Harbor
>>    all over again, times 10,000
>>
>>    Politicians HATE to "do things" because then they
>>    have to OWN it. Gigatons of hot air is their main
>>    product ... probably a major cause of global
>>    warming of late.
>>
> As a leftwing liberal, Alan will never get it.
> He prefers to defend terrorists who, ironically, want him dead.
> 
> As for 47 years, thats in modern history and refers to
> 1979 when ultra weak POTUS Carter fed the regime and started this
> modern day mess.
> 
> In reality, the war from the maniacs POV has been going on for
> centuries. 


    What makes that America's problem?

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