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Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)

From	Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)
Date	2025-11-07 22:40 +0100
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On 17769 March 1977, Andreas Tille wrote:

>> It's a team that was created/delegated without the members actually
>> asking
> That response is astonishing to me. The suggestion to split the team
> originated inside the former ftpmaster team[1] and was raised on
> multiple occasions.

It does not come from the team. Looking at team communication all 
(talking) are either surprised or pissed off by your set of (planned) 
actions.

>> So we now have to see how we deal with this
>> mess that helps nothing at all except for some "Oh i delegated, magic 
>> now
>> will happen" bullshit believes. Might take a day or three or 
>> something.
> Unfortunately, no objections or alternative proposals were received, 
> so
> I proceeded with what seemed the most constructive path forward:
> creating clearer scopes of responsibility to make it easier for new
> contributors to join and for existing work to be shared more evenly.

> I intend to continue supporting both teams, in particular by helping 
> the
> DFSG & Licensing team build up the capacity and structure it needs.

And looking at the git you have for delegations, you appear to have 
found a load of members already and plan to delegate them.

I fail to see ANY talk with the existing team members about this. Do you 
plan on that?

> That's why I asked for volunteers and why I trust that new 
> contributors
> can help improve the situation for everyone involved.

Doesnt sound like it.

How about you take it entirely away from the existing members. You dont 
appear to value what they think anyways.

-- 
bye, Joerg

Thread

Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-11-03 15:20 +0100
  Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Felipe Maia <felipegmaia@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:30 +0100
    Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-11-04 14:40 +0100
      Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2025-11-04 16:50 +0100
        Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-11-04 23:10 +0100
          Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2025-11-05 16:30 +0100
            Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-11-07 22:40 +0100
              Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2025-11-10 21:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-11-11 01:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2025-11-14 17:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> - 2025-11-12 19:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2025-11-12 20:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> - 2025-11-12 23:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-11-12 23:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2025-11-13 07:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> - 2025-11-13 07:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> - 2025-11-13 09:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org> - 2025-11-13 10:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2025-11-13 12:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> - 2025-12-02 00:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> - 2025-11-13 10:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2025-11-13 14:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> - 2025-11-14 08:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2025-11-14 12:10 +0100
                every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new members  for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2025-11-14 12:40 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Syed Shahrukh <syed.shahrukh@ossrevival.org> - 2025-11-14 13:00 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2025-11-14 17:30 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-11-14 15:10 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2025-11-14 16:20 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-11-14 16:30 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Daniel Lenharo de Souza <lenharo@debian.org> - 2025-11-14 17:10 +0100
                Re: every day,  10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team  (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-11-18 02:10 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2025-11-18 08:00 +0100
                Re: every day, 10 packages make it through NEW (Re: Seeking new  members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2025-11-14 16:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2025-11-15 07:20 +0100
              Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-11-16 17:10 +0100
                dh_copyright (was: Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re:  Bits from the DPL)) Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-11-16 18:00 +0100
                Re: dh_copyright (was: Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits  from the DPL)) Fabian Grünbichler <debian@fabian.gruenbichler.email> - 2025-11-16 18:20 +0100
                Re: dh_copyright Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org> - 2025-11-16 18:50 +0100
                Re: dh_copyright Antonio Russo <aerusso@aerusso.net> - 2025-11-16 20:10 +0100
                Re: dh_copyright (was: Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team  (Re: Bits from the DPL)) Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-11-17 13:30 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2025-11-17 02:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2025-11-17 19:10 +0100
    Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG team (Re: Bits from the DPL) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2025-11-04 18:40 +0100

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