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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 4/23/17, 1:27 PM, in article op.yy50f9czjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

... 
>> I have not used many to any great extent but have looked at a few to see if
>> I can replace my horrid one. Never found one that appealed to me enough to
>> make me want to move.
>> 
>> I have been on Usenet long enough where I used to use tin (a command line
>> program).
> 
> First time I used usenet was Netscape 3 on Windows 3.1 in 1995.  Then Netscape
> 4.  Then Forte Agent in a couple of versions.  Then Opera.

Pretty sure when I got back into Usenet I used Entourage... but could be
wrong. :)

>>>>>> Still, the better filtering, etc. is appealing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Agreed.  Forte Agent had a lot of filters, but you needed to be a
>>>>> programmer
>>>>> to understand them.  I don't think it would filter on stuff in the body
>>>>> though, which is very useful.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. For me that is a must.
>>> 
>>> You're the first person I've heard say they've used it.  Most people are
>>> surprised I can do so.
>> 
>> I have filters which show me messaged I am mentioned in... and some other
>> criteria. I read those and often few if any others.
> 
> Same here.  I dread to think how people read usenet if they can't see who's
> replying to them.  They must miss half their replies.

Right... though some also track by threading and can do much the same that
way. Works even if someone does not use your name. That is assuming their
client puts the proper headers in... not all do.

>>>>>> Also do not like how you add and remove buttons, but how often do you
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to do that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Worked for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Right... it works but is not done well. But, again, once you set it up not
>>>> a
>>>> big deal.
>>> 
>>> Not sure how they could make it any simpler.
>> 
>> The standard toolbar tools of macOS... just drag and drop.
> 
> Which is precisely how Opera works.

Don't have time but later I might make a video to show you what I mean.

>>>>>> Would like to make list text smaller and did not see that in the
>>>>>> font options but that is pretty minor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Never tried that.  Seems the perfect size for me.  I assume you're
>>>>> referring
>>>>> to the list of folders/newsgroups.etc?
>>>> 
>>>> The list of posts. Again, not a big deal.
>>> 
>>> That does seem odd, I just looked and you can change the compose and
>>> display,
>>> but not the list.
>> 
>> Yeah, I would prefer a bit smaller but as I said not a big deal at all.
> 
> It's maybe linked to the OS font size, but I guess you don't want to change it
> for everything.

Right. If I did, though, TinkerTool makes that pretty easy. Not gonna do it
though.

... 
>>> Dunno, I mark as read manually (or with filters).  It has another thing
>>> called
>>> "touched" when you click on one.  Blue if never touched, black if touched,
>>> grey if marked as read.
>> 
>> I saw the color changes and did not really get it... but makes sense that it
>> is sort of between read and unread. I suppose I could get used to that and
>> then mark read the "touched" ones.
> 
> I wouldn't want everything I click on to be marked as read.  Just clicking it
> doesn't mean I've actually read it.  It could be a long reply I don't have
> time to look at just now.

When I do that I mark as unread or flag it... but could get used to other
tools. Might give Opera a second look.

-- 
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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 17:50 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 10:02 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:05 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 12:14 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:27 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:38 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 00:47 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 16:57 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:06 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:13 -0700

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