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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics

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On 4/7/17, 6:41 PM, in article phzu9v03.abyy3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

... 
>>> in original format (26 columns, 2000 tables per column, summing
>> 
>> 26 columns. Yes. But you do not have 2000 tables per column.
> 
> Yes I do.

Not in your images or videos. You show ONE table.
 
...

>>> 964 MB sc file
>>> 25 seconds to generate
>>> 40 seconds to open
>>> 2 seconds to jump from table 0 to table 1403999
>> 
>> Presumably: 2 seconds to jump to A1 to ZZ27986 (or whatever) in your one
>> table.
>> 
> 
> No, the jump is to "table 1403999".

While you show the text "table 1403999", what it shows is that text being in
cell ZZ27986 of the one table.

> The command in sc is:
> 
> g "1403999

So you have named your ranges. Cool.
 
>>> http://imgur.com/a/5saYA
>> 
>> What you have listed as "table 1403999" is at cell ZZ27986 of your one
>> table.
>> 
>> But this does lead to a good question: in your tables you have logical units
>> of meaning which are not inherent in the table structure itself (other than
>> as ranges). This is common. Do such units have a common name? Calling them
>> "tables" is clearly incorrect. But what is a good name for such a set of
>> ranges?
> 
> Any set of tabular data can be considered a table.  When you create
> a table in Numbers, if you do not use the entire maximum column and
> row limits, do you say that it is not a table?

Do I say the table is not a table? Um, no. That would be silly. But I do not
claim that different parts of the same table are different tables, as you
do.

> Of course you don't.

Right: I call a table a table, not a range in a table a table.

> But how can it be a table if you're not maxing it out?

A shoe is a shoe even when your foot is not in it. A sole of a shoe does not
become a shoe, though, even if you reference it as one.

> That seems to be what you're saying.

Not even slightly. I mean, really, it is not even remotely connected to
anything I said. Hey, I said you said something about rows you did not
(though understandably I was confused by your lack of proper terminology)...
here you are claiming I am saying something I never did. OK. Good test to
see if you are as honest as I am.

> So given that it *is* still a table without using the all the cells, how does
> that subset of the maximum cells anchored at A0 differ from any other subset?

Assuming you mean: Given it is a table how does one range differ from
another? If so it is because they are different ranges... in the case of
what you are referring to they are not even overlapping ranges.

If that is NOT what you mean then I would need you to explain what you are
even trying to say.


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