Re: The joy of FORTRAN

From	"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Subject	Re: The joy of FORTRAN
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Date	2024-10-04 01:19 -0400
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On 9/26/24 4:51 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 16:18:01 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> One of the favourite functions in my library pulls the next token from a
>> delimited string, but as opposed to strtok() it does it
>> non-destructively and can handle empty strings.
> 
> Use a high-level language which has all this and more:
> 
>      for item in "the,quick,brown,fox".split(",") :
>          print(item)
>      #end for
> 
> Output:
> 
>      the
>      quick
>      brown
>      fox
> 
> In Python, strings are objects, and that applies to string expressions
> (including string literals) as well.

   Ya know ... most of Python IS 'C'-based libs.
   Never really looked into it, but the 'advanced'
   Python function may just be strtok() with a
   lot of handy fixes/cheats in disguise  :-)

   First you make COPIES of the source string ...

   Look, then look DEEPER.

   WAY back, latter 70s, Bill Gates used to participate
   in 'contests' to see How To Do It In The Least
   Bytes/Cycles/Mem - and often won. I do REMEMBER his name
   from Way Back When. As such, despite all after, I do
   NOT doubt his coding acumen.

   The follow-on that a LOT of today's code is
   STILL Bill Gates code - just adapted for a
   particular chip. Smart ASM that got put
   into the libs for almost every computer
   language/OS/BIOS and whatever.

   There IS 'depth' to all this.

   Microprocessors CHANGED EVERYTHING.

   Oh, Python 'strings' are ULTIMATELY just
   a stretch of memory filled with various
   values. The "object" stuff, a carefully-
   crafted ILLUSION  :-)

   I started with ASM ... pre-4004/8008 ... as
   such I see things more at their basic level.

   Oh, recently found an ADVERT for a "desktop",
   more an entire DESK, 8008 all-purpose/wonderful
   8008 system. You could buy it with a nice serial
   terminal AND a - gasp ! - floppy-disk drive
   or, cheap-asses, a tape CASSETTE drive :-)

   The first 'floppies' of MY experience were 8-inch
   floppies. Huge, actually "floppy", didn't hold much
   of DICK.

   Ah how times have changed ! You don't even have to
   solder-together your own I/O boards anymore !

   SO boring ......

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Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 01:19 -0400
  Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:48 +0000
    Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 02:03 -0400
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 06:56 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 07:40 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:13 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 22:47 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-05 23:20 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-06 16:06 -0600
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 03:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-07 10:00 +0100
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-05 07:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 08:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 02:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:43 +0000
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 08:39 +0100
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 08:00 -0700
  Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
  Re: python abstractions, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 18:00 +0000

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