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| From | Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.emacs |
| Subject | Will Emacs support GTK4? Future of Emacs on Wayland? |
| Date | 2025-10-16 13:50 +0200 |
| Organization | MB-NET.NET for Open-News-Network e.V. |
| Message-ID | <87v7kft6af.fsf@posteo.de> (permalink) |
If I understand correctly, GNU Emacs currently requires GTK+ version 3. Meanwhile, GTK4 has been released in December 2020, i.e. almost five years ago. I'm not an expert of GTK4 but it seems to improve support for Wayland. For example, etc/PROBLEMS mentions this[1]: > PGTK build of Emacs running on Wayland doesn't recognize Hyper > modifier. [...] The reason is that GDK 3.x doesn't recognize > the Hyper key modifier. Since GDK 3.x is no longer developed, > this bug in GDK will probably never be solved. And the Emacs > PGTK build cannot yet support GTK4, where this problem is > reportedly solved. But GTK4 has also disadvantages: Its support for X11 has been deprecated in Feburary 2025[2]: > The X11 and Broadway backends have been deprecated, as a clear > signal that we intend to remove them in the GTK 5. I also heard people claim that GTK4 doesn't care about API stability, so any 4.x release might have breaking API changes. I haven't yet seen any discussion on GTK4 for Emacs in the mailing lists, so I'm eager to hear your opinions! Should Emacs support GTK4? How do you imagine Emacs' future support for Wayland? [1] https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/8aeb4f82d915c6f7b552347ed93ed21d93afae07/etc/PROBLEMS#L522-L531 [2] https://blog.gtk.org/2025/02/01/whats-new-in-gtk-winter-2025-edition/
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