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| From | Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: A Modern "Hello World" |
| Date | 2025-12-06 23:40 -0400 |
| Organization | Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop |
| Message-ID | <87v7ijt0vr.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> (permalink) |
| References | <slrn10j5p7q.gqmf.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <clock-20251205153453@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <slrn10j5sst.gqmf.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> |
Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> writes:
> And so, we now have one or two generations of programmers that have
> learned a "framework" that loads a gigabyte of runtime to do a simple
> task. No wonder we have bloated and buggy programs at junior programmers
> mix and match frameworks.
>
> Just a couple decades ago, such a program would be written in a few
> lines of Visual Basic, but I don't think that exists any more.
Ronald Reagan is reputed to have said something like, "The most fearsome
words ever heard are, 'We're from the government and we're here to
help you.'"
Updated to today, the most fearsome words are:
We are continuing to make improvements to this website to serve
you better.
Interactive web sites that worked flawlessly have been, I assume,
subjected to the attention of (not neccessairily junior) js progammers
tasked with instantiating features that someone thought would be cool,
that some executive demanded or simply something of which the programmer
said to h{im,er}self, "Jeez, that would be better if....Oh, I can do
that!" And the site stops working unless I upgrade or change my
browser or even, possibly, upgrade ny whole system.
Feh.
>
> --
> Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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