Re: [OT] missing evidence

From	Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: [OT] missing evidence
Date	2023-10-01 00:33 +0100
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Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:

> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 16:52:48 UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> writes: 
>> 
>> > Setting up rigorous 
>> > psychological experiments and collecting the results in a way that is 
>> > publishable is quite involved. It's not that case that something has to 
>> > appear in academic literature to be true.
>> If there are no published studies, just say so.
>>
> I just don't know. I'm not a psychologist.

OK.  Without supporting evidence it's just something you (and maybe
other people) like to claim.

>> > Wiki claims that people can be trained to subitise up to fifteen.
>> So the "rule of seven" covers anything from four to fifteen? (Or are 
>> you disputing the papers that claim four of five as the limit?) 
>>
> Four or five is the limit when you impose the rule that the person
> devising the test can use any non-contrived spatial distribution and
> selection of elements to subitise. So you could show a cat and a dog
> and a mouse and ask "how many animals?" and the subject would
> immediately answer "three".  However you couldn't place the mouse
> halfway in the cat's mouth as though it were eating it. (I think, I
> haven't actually done that experiment).
>
> Seven is the limit when you impose the rule that the person devising
> the test can't contrive to make the exercise especially easy. As David
> Brown pointed out, you can subitise up to twelve if the objects are
> dots on two dice. That would be an example of such
> contrivance. However placing twelve identical dots in a straight line
> well within the subject's visual field would not be, but you are of
> course trying to make the exercise a bit easier.

More un-cited supposed facts that just add to my point that there is no
reasonable meaning for the "rule of seven".

>> I note that you acknowledge that circumstances and training have an 
>> effect. I wonder if the circumstances that pertain to programming 
>> (indentation, layout, operator precedence, common patterns...) as well as 
>> the training to be a programmer (mathematics, syntax, parsing...) might 
>> have an effect on the currently un-evidenced "rule of three". 
>>
> Yes. That's why I don't impose Torvald's rule of three.

Ah, so maybe you could cite that?  At least there might be some
explanation from him.  I can't find anything, but you must have seen it
somewhere.

> I do always lay out my C curly braces so that they are vertically
> aligned. Which you wouldnt have to do if matching were perceptutally
> easy. The rule of three is for doing what is the equivalent of
> subitising for nesting rather than counting. But you don't actually
> have to take in a function as a whole to understand it. In a
> procedural language like C at least.

So you claim without any evidence.  But anyway even you don't follow it.
And there are only limited situations it applies to.  Everyone should
note that this is what you mean be a "rule".

>> But really all that's happening here is that you like "rules" and I 
>> don't. To that limited extent, there is an element of postmodernism at 
>> play here. 
>> 
> Well I maybe have broader interests than you. My view is that if you wish to
> understand the world around you, attempting to devise rules which describe 
> it is helpful.

I admit I can't work them all out for myself so I read books and
published papers by experts who know more than I do.  That's why I ask
for citations and references.  There is no rule of seven (in perception)
or three (in programming) that helps to describe the world.  Most
aspects of the world (people and their actions, in particular) are far
more varied than such banal rules could possibly describe.

-- 
Ben.

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Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-18 01:21 +0300
  Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-18 01:23 +0300
  Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-18 00:32 +0100
    Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-09-18 10:55 +0300
      Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-18 13:40 +0200
        Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 06:02 -0700
          Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-18 17:10 +0200
            Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "comp.lang.c" <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 16:47 -0700
              Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-19 09:25 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 02:57 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 12:31 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 03:54 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-19 16:54 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 12:33 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 14:56 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-19 13:43 +0000
      Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-18 12:49 +0100
        Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-23 19:10 +0300
  Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-17 17:17 -0700
    Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-09-18 11:53 +0300
      Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-18 16:55 +0200
        Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-18 15:54 +0000
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            Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-18 19:36 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-18 21:57 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 14:00 -0700
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 15:55 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-19 09:33 +0200
              Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-18 21:59 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-18 22:01 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-18 22:16 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 15:51 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-18 22:59 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 16:04 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 16:19 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 16:24 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 16:44 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 17:37 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-19 09:41 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-19 10:12 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-19 17:10 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-19 22:22 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 15:35 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-19 22:44 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-20 12:55 +0200
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            Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-18 14:03 -0700
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-23 19:13 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-25 10:38 +0200
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            Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-24 23:26 +0300
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            Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-25 11:51 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-25 18:56 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-25 19:53 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-26 14:37 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-26 14:57 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-26 17:21 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-26 13:49 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-26 17:14 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2023-09-26 14:27 +0000
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2023-09-26 17:45 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-26 17:10 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 08:29 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 11:04 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 03:37 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 17:03 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 08:35 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 18:52 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 10:46 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 20:26 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 11:45 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 21:19 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 16:34 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-28 01:11 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-27 19:32 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 17:12 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-28 01:49 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 17:53 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-28 11:21 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-28 16:56 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 07:15 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-28 18:38 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-28 21:47 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-29 01:45 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-29 10:38 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-29 14:33 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 12:10 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 05:28 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-29 15:19 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-29 15:18 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-10-01 02:18 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 18:04 -0700
                [OT] missing evidence (Was: Do you insist on const-correctness?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-29 02:31 +0100
                Re: [OT] missing evidence (Was: Do you insist on const-correctness?) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 21:02 -0700
                Re: [OT] missing evidence (Was: Do you insist on const-correctness?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-28 21:48 -0700
                Re: [OT] missing evidence (Was: Do you insist on const-correctness?) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 22:33 -0700
                Re: [OT] missing evidence Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-29 16:52 +0100
                Re: [OT] missing evidence Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 18:19 -0700
                Re: [OT] missing evidence Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-30 13:06 +0300
                Re: [OT] missing evidence David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-30 17:30 +0200
                Re: [OT] missing evidence Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-10-01 00:33 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-28 17:13 +0000
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 21:24 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-27 23:05 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 14:18 -0700
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-26 18:46 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 11:37 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-27 15:13 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-27 13:32 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-28 01:34 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-28 10:37 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-28 13:50 +0100
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                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 11:23 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-27 11:42 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-27 15:27 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 06:44 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-27 17:56 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-27 22:12 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-27 23:53 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-28 16:25 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-28 17:00 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-30 09:58 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-10-01 00:41 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-30 22:33 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-10-01 01:50 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-30 09:56 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-30 17:42 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-30 15:42 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 11:19 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-26 20:53 +0300
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-26 19:15 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-26 23:05 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-27 01:45 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 19:43 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-27 03:21 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 20:56 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-27 10:36 +0100
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-27 03:17 +0000
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-27 16:46 +0200
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-25 21:16 +0200
            Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-29 00:38 +0300
              Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 10:07 -0700
                Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-30 17:34 +0200
      Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-23 11:57 -0700
        Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-24 00:07 +0300
  Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-18 02:38 +0000
    Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-09-18 11:07 +0300
      Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-18 15:24 +0000
  Re: Do you insist on const-correctness? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-18 07:21 -0700

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