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Re: Search finds no messages

From "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject Re: Search finds no messages
Date 2023-08-11 13:07 +0200
Organization ZEDAT, Freie Universität Berlin
Message-ID <87leehdegs.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> (permalink)
References <87pm3ygd03.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <87edkegci8.fsf@hillenius.net> <87fs4thpge.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64>

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"Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:

> Hi Gijs,
>
> Gijs Hillenius <gijs@hillenius.net> writes:
>
>> On  8 August 2023 10:22 Loris Bennett, wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have just upgraded my Debian system from 11 to 12 and now, when I try
>>> to search within a group in the *Group* buffer with 'G G' I always get
>>> an error like
>>>
>>>   Group nnselect:nnselect-87zg32gdj4.fsf contains no messages
>>>
>>> even when I know that there are messages in the group and that some of
>>> these contain the string I searched for.  If I enter the group, messages
>>> are displayed.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what the problems might be or at least where I should
>>> start looking in order to debug the problem?
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> We probably need more info. Did something else change ?
>
> Not that I am aware of, but that is a fairly major change :-)
>
>> What mail
>> backend are you using?
>
>   nnimap
>
> but I also have the problem in the nntp groups, although with those I
> seen the following in the *Messages* buffer:
>
>   nnselect-run: gnus-search-run-query on ((search-query-spec (query
>   . loris) (raw)) (search-group-spec (nntp:news.fu-berlin.de
>   gnu.emacs.gnus))) gave error (gnus-search-config-error
>   gnus-search-config-error No search engine configured for
>   nntp:news.fu-berlin.de)
>
> Indeed there is no search engine configured for nntp:
>
>   (nntp "fu_news"
>         (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de")
>         (remove-prefix nntp)
>         (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))
>
> whereas for imap the search engine is configured 
>
>   (nnimap "fu_exchange"
>           (nnir-search-engine imap)
>           (remove-prefix "nnimap")
>           (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de")
>           (nnimap-record-commands t)
>           (nnimap-inbox INBOX)
>           (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))
>
> So it seems that for IMAP the search engine is configured but not
> working and for NNTP it is just not configured.
>
>> You suspect a link to Debian 12. Debian Bookworm comes with Emacs 28.2.
>> If you think that is it, how about going back to 27.1 ? 
>>
>> http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/emacs/ 
>>
>
> Well, before I go down that road I shall check whether the same problem
> occurs on my other laptop, which is at work, but which I also updated
> and which uses the same Emacs config.

So it seems that the problem does not always occur.  With a stripped
down configuration I now find the search still works for two private
email accounts, but not with my work account (Exchange), with which it
did previously work.

I am not aware that there has been a change with the email server at
work, so maybe the more recent version of Emacs/Gnus no longer tolerates
something it once did.  Strange also that the actual newsgroups are also
affected.

So not (directly) an Emacs/Gnus issue.

Cheers,

Loris

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Search finds no messages "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2023-08-08 10:22 +0200
  Re: Search finds no messages Gijs Hillenius <gijs@hillenius.net> - 2023-08-08 10:32 +0200
    Re: Search finds no messages "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2023-08-08 11:07 +0200
      Re: Search finds no messages "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2023-08-11 13:07 +0200
        Re: Search finds no messages "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2023-08-11 13:15 +0200
          Re: Search finds no messages "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2023-08-16 10:12 +0200
            Re: Search finds no messages "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2023-08-16 16:27 +0200

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