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| From | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: A Famous Security Bug |
| Date | 2024-03-25 08:54 -0700 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <87le66xq72.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> (permalink) |
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 13:49:43 -0700
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>> [...]
>> > But what people want are the conveniences and familiarity of a HLL,
>> > without the bloody-mindedness of an optimising C compiler.
>> [...]
>>
>> Exactly which people want that?
>>
>> The evidence suggests that, while some people undoubtedly want that
>> (and it's a perfectly legitimate desire), there isn't enough demand
>> to induce anyone to actually produce such a thing and for it to catch
>> on.
>
> Such things are produced all the time. A yes, they fail to catch on.
> The most recent [half-hearted] attempt that didn't realize yet that it
> has no chance is called zig.
Does Zig have those characteristics because its language definition say
so, or because there's a single implementation that happens to work that
way? I took a quick look at the documentation and didn't see anything
definitive.
>> Developers have had decades to define and implement the kind of
>> language you're talking about. Why haven't they?
>>
>
> Because C is juggernaut?
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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