Re: A Famous Security Bug

From	Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: A Famous Security Bug
Date	2024-03-24 13:49 -0700
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bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
[...]
> But what people want are the conveniences and familiarity of a HLL,
> without the bloody-mindedness of an optimising C compiler.
[...]

Exactly which people want that?

The evidence suggests that, while some people undoubtedly want that (and
it's a perfectly legitimate desire), there isn't enough demand to induce
anyone to actually produce such a thing and for it to catch on.
Developers have had decades to define and implement the kind of language
you're talking about.  Why haven't they?

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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