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Re: Everything is broken

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Everything is broken
Date 2015-04-10 16:54 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
<snip>
> Let's take compilers as an example of where things have gotten a
> little out of hand.
>
> I have a compiler for my own C-like language. It takes about 2 seconds
> to compile all of it (using another of my languages which is
> /interpreted/).
>
> With the gcc compiler for C, I've heard various reports of 15 to 75
> /minutes/ for it to build itself.
>
> While with Visual Studio 2010, it apparently takes over 60 /hours/ to
> do a full build!
>
> So, 2 seconds, 1000+ seconds, 200,000 seconds. See the advantage of
> keeping things small and simple?

Not to me, no.  I have not built gcc even once in the last 20 years, so
any change that makes it build faster must have zero impact on the
functionality of the compiler or it will be simply a net disadvantage to
me.  (This includes any slow-down in the rate of development caused by
taking time to make the build faster.)

You might be saying that gcc is pointlessly slow, but that would need
more evidence than a few build times.

<snip>
-- 
Ben.

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Everything is broken RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-04-06 21:18 +0000
  Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-06 18:45 -0400
    Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-07 22:26 +0100
      Re: Everything is broken Dario Niedermann <dnied@tiscali.it> - 2015-04-09 16:08 +0200
        Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-09 10:50 -0400
          Re: Everything is broken Dario Niedermann <dnied@tiscali.it> - 2015-04-09 17:19 +0200
            Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-09 11:43 -0400
        Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-09 17:16 +0100
          Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-09 12:25 -0400
            Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-09 21:18 +0100
              Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-09 16:31 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-09 22:02 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-09 20:56 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-10 10:50 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 09:17 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-10 15:27 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 11:04 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-10 16:35 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 13:01 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-11 21:48 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 22:22 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Dario Niedermann <dnied@tiscali.it> - 2015-04-12 16:44 +0200
                Re: Everything is broken Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 17:04 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-04-10 16:54 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-11 22:24 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-04-10 20:11 +0000
                Re: Everything is broken Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-04-10 20:17 +0000
                Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 17:02 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:53 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 17:55 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-12 13:52 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 19:15 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-04-12 19:23 +0000
                Re: Everything is broken Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-12 23:30 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-04-13 10:34 +0100
                Re: Everything is broken Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-04-13 20:08 +0000
                Re: Everything is broken Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-04-13 21:16 +0000
                Re: Everything is broken Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-13 16:27 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-04-10 14:43 +0000
                Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 11:08 -0400
                Re: Everything is broken Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-04-10 20:54 +0000
              Re: Everything is broken Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-04-10 01:56 +0000
    Re: Everything is broken Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-04-07 22:27 +0100
      Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-07 19:16 -0400
  Re: Everything is broken Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-09 19:11 -0700
    Re: Everything is broken Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-10 02:05 -0700
      Re: Everything is broken Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-04-10 20:22 +0000
        Re: Everything is broken Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2015-04-11 01:49 +0200
    Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 09:10 -0400
      Re: Everything is broken Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-10 13:57 -0700
        Re: Everything is broken Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-10 17:14 -0400
          Re: Everything is broken Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-10 18:42 -0700

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