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Re: Build Systems

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Build Systems
Date 2023-08-20 00:10 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> writes:

> On Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 01:21:58 UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> bart c <bart...@gmail.com> writes: 
>
>> > That is, you want to be able to type: 
>> > 
>> > X 
>> > 
>> > and not: 
>> > 
>> > X Y
>> No, I want to type 
>> 
>> make 
>> make tests 
>> make install 
>> make clean 
>> make mylib.a 
>
> I'm not familiar with how make is used.

You have very strong opinions about something you don't know much about.

> Do you routinely have to
> invoke it five times in succession?

No.  I am giving typical example invocations.

> Maybe that's a deeper problem with
> it, but as I said I don't use it.

Obviously.

>> depending on what I'm doing rather than 
>> 
>> make makefile 
>> make makefile tests 
>> make makefile install 
>> make makefile clean 
>> make makefile mylib.a 
>
> And this actually tells me that the main input is identical in all
> cases;

Yes, it's somewhat like a configuration file.

> I'd been wondering what was being done with mylib.a. But whatever it
> is, the same makefile that does all the other stuff contains some
> formula for 'mylib.a'?

Presumably.

> In practice I doubt you would type this five times as normally you'd
> do line recall then change the last bit.

Yes.  I hope we can agree one thing: how much one types is almost
entirely irrelevant on modern systems.  You kept going on about it, but
the typing has never been the issue.

> You can also choose to give it a shorter name than 'makefile'!

Yes, but the typing is not, and never has been, the issue.  If the name
is not defaulted everyone has to guess where the rules for this project
are stored.  And it's redundant and intrusive to keep specifying the
configuration, even if it's easy to type.

>> What's more, tab completion in my shell works with make's targets, but I 
>> don't think that's at all easy to do if the makefile has to be named in 
>> the same command.
>> > like nearly every other command line program. 
>> 
>> > Yet being able to do 
>> > 
>> > X Y 
>> > 
>> > instead of: 
>> > 
>> > X Y.Z 
>> > 
>> > on those other programs is anathema.
>> Well (if you are talking about having to say gcc prog.c rather than gcc 
>> prog) there are advantages, and none of them have anything to do with 
>> how much one has to type. After all, command completion means I rarely 
>> type a file name explcitly anyway. 
>
> If my C test folder, I had 23 files that started with
> 'hello'. Although they are stepped through in alphabetical order on
> Windows and .c is near the top, you still have to tentatively keep
> pressing tab, then you go too far and need shift-tab .. it is quicker
> just to type the extension! Better however not to have to bother.

As I say, it's not about saving two key presses, it's about:

>> The main advantage is that there's no need to specify and remember all 
>> the rules. Does gcc always add .c? Will it add .c if I type gcc 
>> prog.s? Must I avoid any dots in the basename? What happens when 
>> several names appear on the command line?
>
> gcc is a bad example to follow since it does too much on the command
> line and performs multiple functions.

But it's what you were talking about.  You seem to want it to do less.
I don't.

>> > It's fascinating watching psychology and group-think at work.
>>
>> As usual, you've invented a position (it'a all about the typing) and 
>> argued about that instead of taking on board the actual comments that 
>> people have made. 
>
> The typing is part of it.

For you.  Not for me.  It seems you care enough about it to champion a
compiler driver that isn't very flexible.  I don't.

-- 
Ben.

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  Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-13 21:45 +0100
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 23:43 +0100
      Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-14 01:16 +0100
        Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 00:46 +0000
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                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-21 06:05 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 11:32 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 14:42 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 15:59 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:38 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 18:16 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:02 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 14:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2023-08-19 19:10 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 14:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:13 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 06:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 16:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-21 14:43 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 05:52 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 14:30 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:18 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:11 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:45 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 00:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-20 14:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-20 17:28 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 20:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 14:50 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-18 13:19 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:16 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 15:32 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 07:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 07:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:11 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:32 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 04:02 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:26 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 05:43 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 11:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 02:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 03:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 13:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 12:55 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 02:14 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:01 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:20 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:31 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-19 14:06 +0300
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 04:39 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 16:46 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 16:00 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 18:03 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 19:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 16:44 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:21 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-18 15:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:47 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 10:49 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 15:16 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-19 09:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:43 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 14:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:46 +0200
              Really? (Was: Build Systems) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0000
        Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 09:54 +0200
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:07 +0100
            Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:42 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 12:14 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 05:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 15:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 09:10 -0700
  Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-14 14:49 +0200
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 14:39 +0100
      Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 11:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 02:56 -0700
          Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:23 -0700
            Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:45 +0100
              Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 03:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 01:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:57 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 12:19 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 15:18 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:45 +0000
          Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:30 +0200
            Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:58 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 14:06 +0000
              Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 17:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 21:46 +0100
    Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:48 +0000
  Re: Build Systems Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:16 -0700
  Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-29 04:43 -0700

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