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Re: Build Systems

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Build Systems
Date 2023-08-17 17:46 -0700
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Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
[...]
> In the Lua project, the two files were called 'makefile'. I suspect
> that if 'make' required an explicit name, they would not both be
> called 'makefile'.

In the tarball distributed from lua.org, the two files are called
"Makefile" and "src/Makefile".  (The git repo and the "release"
files available on GitHub are organized differently, as I've already
explained to you.  You have no reason to care about those unless
you plan to work on Lua development.  I will not discuss them
further here.)

[...]
> What, needing one extra parameter? Typing two words instead of one?
> This is what you call being more difficult?

The file name Makefile implies that it's a file to be used by the make
tool to build one or more artifacts *from the contents of the directory
containing the Makefile*.

Typing "make" is typically one of the steps used to build a software
package from source and install it.  Not having a default makefile name
would mean figuring out what name the maintainer chose and then typing
"make arbitrary-file-name".

Most developers organize their directories in a way that works well with
this.  If you prefer to use some different organization, well, the "-f"
option is there for you.  Nobody's telling you not to use it.

[...]

> I'm not used to seeing major, industrial-grade software being so sloppy.

It's not sloppy.  It's optimized for the vastly more common use case.

> Imagine if two distinct makefiles somehow get mixed up. Type 'make',
> and it will use the wrong makefile. Maybe it will go obviously wrong,

So don't do that.

[...]

> Answer honestly: if 'make' had required an explicit filename from the
> start (probably it wouldn't have needed '-f'), would anyone have cared 
> about having to type it?

Having to type it?  No.  Having to figure out what arbitrary name the
author chose?  Yes.

The vast majority of the time, there is one Makefile in a directory, and
you just "cd" to that directory and type "make", possibly with some
argument(s) to provide more information.  That's why having a default
name is a good thing.  And you don't have to use the default if you
don't want to.  (There's a common convention to use a ".mk" suffix for
non-default makefiles.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 14:53 +0100
  Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-13 21:45 +0100
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 23:43 +0100
      Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-14 01:16 +0100
        Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 00:46 +0000
          Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 01:05 +0000
            Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 18:59 -0700
              Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 02:44 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 20:53 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Matthew Ernisse <matt@going-flying.com> - 2023-08-17 22:00 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 03:51 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 04:58 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Matthew Ernisse <matt@going-flying.com> - 2023-08-18 13:02 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-20 16:14 +0300
                Re: Dev on Windoze "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:05 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:16 -0700
            Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 04:03 +0000
              Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 10:14 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Karl Meyer <karlmeyer25@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 05:16 -0700
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 10:35 +0100
    Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-14 15:06 +0200
      Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 14:58 +0100
        Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:49 +0000
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 18:00 +0100
            Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 11:00 +0200
              Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:21 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 16:11 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 15:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems MJ OS_EXAMINE <m6502x64@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 08:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 16:44 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 20:00 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 18:03 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 17:01 +0000
                Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 17:07 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:17 +0300
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 22:57 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 18:49 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 13:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 23:09 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 23:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 15:55 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 01:05 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 01:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 11:37 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 12:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 15:16 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 16:34 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:43 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-16 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 22:25 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 00:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 01:02 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 02:56 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 11:21 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 23:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 00:43 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:45 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-18 00:24 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 17:46 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 18:29 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 19:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 14:55 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:19 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:43 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:19 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:57 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-27 00:01 -0700
                Re: Build Systems candycane@f172.n1.z21.fsxnet (candycane) - 2023-08-27 03:34 +1300
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-27 08:32 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 16:58 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 11:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 16:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 11:59 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-18 01:49 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 02:19 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 01:21 +0100
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 18:36 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:51 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 05:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 00:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:54 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:30 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 13:44 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 17:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 02:28 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 00:12 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 11:13 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 11:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 13:37 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 13:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 14:51 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:19 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 09:30 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 16:36 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 16:50 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 18:06 +0100
                Re: Build Systems kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-22 20:46 +0000
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 21:06 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-22 17:04 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-20 00:10 +0100
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:50 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-20 20:48 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-20 22:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 00:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 01:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 02:02 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 02:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 03:13 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 11:09 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 14:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:47 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 19:06 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-21 18:40 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:39 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 12:23 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 21:55 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-22 01:31 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 02:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 14:41 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 08:03 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 15:33 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 16:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 15:40 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:03 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-23 03:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 19:51 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 02:23 +0100
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 21:24 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 11:31 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 10:53 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 13:55 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-25 13:54 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 20:55 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:49 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 08:42 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 11:37 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-08-23 14:02 +0300
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 15:02 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 02:17 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 14:28 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-08-23 19:54 +0300
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-23 19:33 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 21:13 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 23:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-24 15:32 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-24 15:51 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-24 18:58 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-24 18:29 +0000
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-24 20:41 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-24 23:08 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-25 17:22 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 16:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-25 16:54 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-25 17:02 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-25 19:21 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-25 18:56 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 11:44 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-24 18:47 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-24 21:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-24 22:59 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 02:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 20:17 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-08-24 16:30 +0300
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-23 17:43 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 20:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-08-26 18:19 +0300
                Re: Build Systems Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-26 21:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-08-28 11:31 +0300
                Re: Build Systems Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-28 06:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 02:11 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 11:27 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-25 13:52 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 15:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 20:04 +0200
                Re: Build Systems candycane@f172.n1.z21.fsxnet (candycane) - 2023-08-26 00:47 +1300
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-26 01:42 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-27 01:16 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-25 05:51 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 23:17 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-21 02:52 +0000
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-21 03:02 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-21 06:05 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 11:32 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 14:42 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 08:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 15:59 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:38 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 18:16 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:02 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 14:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2023-08-19 19:10 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 14:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 18:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:13 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 06:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 16:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-21 14:43 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 05:52 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 14:30 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:18 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:11 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:45 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 00:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-20 14:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-20 17:28 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 20:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 14:50 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-18 13:19 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:16 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 15:32 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 07:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 07:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:11 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:32 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 04:02 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:26 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 05:43 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 11:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 02:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 03:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 13:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 12:55 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 02:14 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:01 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:20 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:31 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-19 14:06 +0300
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 04:39 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 16:46 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 16:00 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 18:03 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 19:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 16:44 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:21 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-18 15:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:47 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 10:49 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 15:16 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-19 09:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:43 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 14:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:46 +0200
              Really? (Was: Build Systems) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0000
        Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 09:54 +0200
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:07 +0100
            Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:42 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 12:14 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 05:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 15:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 09:10 -0700
  Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-14 14:49 +0200
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 14:39 +0100
      Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 11:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 02:56 -0700
          Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:23 -0700
            Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:45 +0100
              Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 03:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 01:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:57 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 12:19 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 15:18 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:45 +0000
          Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:30 +0200
            Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:58 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 14:06 +0000
              Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 17:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 21:46 +0100
    Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:48 +0000
  Re: Build Systems Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:16 -0700
  Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-29 04:43 -0700

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